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Someone explain the HDCP error I keep getting on my TV

Posted on 2/10/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 1:53 pm
All of a sudden my TV is getting an HDCP error when watching ESPN and Netflix on my apple TV. I will unplug power cord and let it sit for about a minute and the message goes away for a few days. I asked DISH about this and all they will tell me is my TV is too old and that I need to use regular audio/video cables and not HDMI cable but I have been using this same TV for 5 years with DISH and never had issues until recently. Anyone have a fix for this?
Posted by ADLSUNSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
3518 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 1:59 pm to
all i could figure was that it had something to do with the hdmi cable. Even though it is bs, buying a new "hdcp" hdmi cable fixed the issue i was having with apple tv.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12926 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:21 pm to
Are you using an hdmi switch or receiver between your sources?

Could be your tv or HDMI cable is not HDCP compatible. Bottom line is something in your system is not HDCP compliant, or is not negotiating the signal handoff correctly.

Most likely if your tv is less than ten years old it is not the tv. The cable is the likely culprit.

BTW this such bullshite. Switching to an inferior input (component cables) is not acceptable.

Edit: why are you calling Dish about an issue with your Apple TV and your tv display?
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

why are you calling Dish about an issue with your Apple TV and your tv display?
Because it first started while I was using a Joey receiver from DISH. I had this TV hooked to a Hopper for two years and never had an issue. My TV is between 6-7 years old.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12926 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:39 pm to
Probably not your tv. Probably your cable. If you have a switch or receiver in between could be those too.

Mine was a rocketfish switch. Had to replace it. It was not HDCP compliant.
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:53 pm to
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If you have a switch or receiver in between could be those too


No switch between the receiver and tv
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:56 pm to
Just to be clear, if it's the cable, the cable is defective. It's not like there are some special "HDCP HDMI cables" out there in addition to "non-HDCP HDMI cables"; there's no dedicated HDCP wire in the cables. Even the $3 HDMI cables I bought from Monoprice nearly 10 years ago work fine as High Speed HDMI cables, which of course includes HDCP. See this page for the correct way that HDMI cables are described, and note that it doesn't even mention HDCP:

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Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 3:01 pm to
Plug everything up and power cycle everything at the same time.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12926 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 3:21 pm to
could be the order in which you turn on devices. Do tv first then the Apple TV to ensure the tv receives the handshake in time. If there is no acknowledgement sent back to the Apple TV timely then it thinks the display is not HDCP compliant.
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Plug everything up and power cycle everything at the same time
I do this and it works for a day or so then goes back to giving me error.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96006 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

I do this and it works for a day or so then goes back to giving me error.



It's happened on my roku's before. I've changed the hdmi cable out and it fixes the problem usually.

Although one time it only fixed the problem for a week and it came right back. That was really annoying. I would have to reset the box every other day or so.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

It's happened on my roku's before. I've changed the hdmi cable out and it fixes the problem usually.

Although one time it only fixed the problem for a week and it came right back. That was really annoying. I would have to reset the box every other day or so.


That's because the cable's rarely the problem, and when it is the problem, it's because it's defective as I explained earlier, downvote from some knucklehead notwithstanding. You switch the cable, and you force a new handshake, and the problem can go away for a while. It's coincidence. You can get the same benefit from power-cycling or otherwise playing with power-on order. Some equipment combinations just don't play well together, and that's been a complaint ever since HDCP was inflicted on the world, though it gets less common year by year.
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10378 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 4:58 pm to
Had the same problem with my roku.. power cycled it everyday. Finally swapped out the $4 Amazon cable with a $5 Amazon cable and no issues for two years.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12079 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 1:46 am to
I had this problem with my Cox DVR.

Fixed by playing with the HDMI connection on the back of the box. It seemed to have a preferred pull on it- when the cable pulled to the right I'd frequently get the error, when it pulled to the left I'd never get the error. So I just got out the needle nose pliers (though I'd never admit to Cox that I did this) and tightened the casing that holds the cable in place and I haven't had the problem since.

If you're uncomfortable with that then try a new cable before you get too far into the fix.

Hope it works out.

Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:33 am to
You can sometimes fix this problem by coming out the box and into a splitter then into the TV. I see it happen all the time.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Had the same problem with my roku.. power cycled it everyday. Finally swapped out the $4 Amazon cable with a $5 Amazon cable and no issues for two years.




I recall reading somewhere that the length of the HDMI cable is a factor. Extremely short cables don't work reliably.
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2770 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:01 am to
This Powered HDMI Spiltter will correct your problem.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 8:03 am
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:32 am to
quote:

I recall reading somewhere that the length of the HDMI cable is a factor. Extremely short cables don't work reliably.


It's long cables that can be a problem, but I've had no issues with 15 foot, 28 AWG Monoprice cables I bought almost 10 years ago. That's beginning to push it, though.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66707 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:27 am to
was just coming here to plug Monoprice.

you can find great deals on Amazon, TigerDirect, and NewEgg, but if you need a weird length or more than one, I'd definitely recommend Monoprice.com. Great service and faster than expected shipping.

Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:54 am to
quote:

was just coming here to plug Monoprice.


I just searched my email, and the 15 foot HDMI cables I bought from Monoprice in 2008 cost me $6.58 each. The 3 and 6 foot ones were $4 each. They've all been perfect WRT HDCP, 1080p, 3D, lossless multichannel audio, etc. The only High Speed function I haven't tested is 4K.

The AmazonBasics are also good, and they are thinner and more flexible, lacking the ferrite cores on the ends. Christ, I have Monoprice and Amazon joined by couplers with Amazons going into my TV because they bend more easily and lay flat against the back without those big cores getting in the way, which really helps with 3 inputs in use, and that's been perfect.

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