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Posted on 2/12/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 2/12/17 at 3:09 pm
I've got to manage our HOA account. The current management company has a quickbooks file set up that they have given me. I'm going to need to set it up on my mac at home (desktop, not laptop). For those of you that have used it, is the online subscription easy to use? Could I login from another computer (i.e., windows?)? Or should I just purchase the quicbooks for mac program to download to the computer?
TIA
TIA
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:26 pm to Royal
From what I remember the online and Mac versions are pretty much the same and lack a lot of features of the windows version. Should be able to handle simple HOA bookkeeping though
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/12/17 at 5:20 pm to Royal
I moved my qb company file to qb online a few years ago and integrated it with our business management software. Unless it has changed recently, you would have to convert the windows qb (assuming the management company uses the windows version) to qb for Mac.
A few things to consider:
Qb for Mac company files can't be read by qb for windows. It would have to be converted back and forth each time. It also can't be converted to previous versions of qb. So if you get 2017 and the management company uses 2016 for windows, they would be able to convert it back.
If you will be the only person using it, this wouldn't be a problem. If your management company or anyone else, like a CPA, needs to view or make changes to it, online might be the best route. With the online version we use, we get three users and CPA access. We like the number of people that can access it and everyone has access to he most current version.
A few things to consider:
Qb for Mac company files can't be read by qb for windows. It would have to be converted back and forth each time. It also can't be converted to previous versions of qb. So if you get 2017 and the management company uses 2016 for windows, they would be able to convert it back.
If you will be the only person using it, this wouldn't be a problem. If your management company or anyone else, like a CPA, needs to view or make changes to it, online might be the best route. With the online version we use, we get three users and CPA access. We like the number of people that can access it and everyone has access to he most current version.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:07 pm to liuyaming
Why are you managing your HOA accounting? That is something that almost every management company does? If they are not good enough at it themselves, no BS fire them now and find someone that does. Its really not that difficult, furthermore a board member really should not be managing the money IMO. You are setting yourself up for a TON of flack from owners and any mistakes can easily land you in legal trouble. If you were an accountant or book keeper that's one thing because you do that as your job, but you must not be in order to ask these questions.
Given that, yeah I'd go with QBO. I access it from my wife's Mac Book, my surface, my work comps, etc. I even use the app's on my Ipad occasionally.
FWIW I've been on multiple HOA boards. If your HOA can't afford to pay a management company to do the book keeping, you need to raise the dues. You are offering a free service that should be paid for by the owners. All I'm saying, is I've seen it over and over when owners try to save money by doing things themselves the first small thing that goes wrong makes a huge PITA for the board and said owner.
Given that, yeah I'd go with QBO. I access it from my wife's Mac Book, my surface, my work comps, etc. I even use the app's on my Ipad occasionally.
FWIW I've been on multiple HOA boards. If your HOA can't afford to pay a management company to do the book keeping, you need to raise the dues. You are offering a free service that should be paid for by the owners. All I'm saying, is I've seen it over and over when owners try to save money by doing things themselves the first small thing that goes wrong makes a huge PITA for the board and said owner.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:45 pm to baldona
quote:
Why are you managing your HOA accounting? That is something that almost every management company does? If they are not good enough at it themselves, no BS fire them now and find someone that does. Its really not that difficult, furthermore a board member really should not be managing the money IMO. You are setting yourself up for a TON of flack from owners and any mistakes can easily land you in legal trouble. If you were an accountant or book keeper that's one thing because you do that as your job, but you must not be in order to ask these questions.
Lets just say we "fired" the management company and I was appointed treasurer. This is a new HOA and there wasn't a clear line between the developer and the management co. Some owners organized a mutiny and we have about $15k of outstanding dues. They wanted to run it themselves before paying, so I agreed (to stop all the flack) to jump on as treasurer-Not a member of the board, but an officer. Being a small HOA (43 owners), I dont see that it will be a problem after i get the quick books up and running.
Thanks for the input, though. I will go the online route. Also, I hate hoa's.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:49 pm to baldona
quote:
FWIW I've been on multiple HOA boards. If your HOA can't afford to pay a management company to do the book keeping, you need to raise the dues. You are offering a free service that should be paid for by the owners. All I'm saying, is I've seen it over and over when owners try to save money by doing things themselves the first small thing that goes wrong makes a huge PITA for the board and said owner.
to this, we have it set up where all checks require two signatures (one board member and myself), but I do see the issues you mentioned. I hope this doesnt last long, because its been a major PITA.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 3:07 pm to Royal
I've never dealt with the transition from developer to PM company, but I can imagine that's a PITA.
Do you have any big community common areas or projects? If you don't, its really pretty simple. Upkeep on things like pools and clubhouses is generally where the PITA is.
I was just saying that usually HOA's are 501(c)3s and require a certain % of the money go into reserves and you also have to spend within a certain percentage of your budget or that money can be taxed. Budgeting, taxes, and what not are where you really need the professionals. Mostly because if something goes wrong your HOA carries insurance on them and they don't on you, so you are opening yourself up to liability.
Given that, for 43 lots its probably fairly easy. You may want to seek legal counsel also in dealing with the transition. I estimated that about 30% of dues go into management/ legal. Usually you put 10-20% into reserves, and the rest is your operating budget. Also, be very careful on the bidding. Even though you aren't on the board which I don't understand as the treasurer? You may hold some liability seeing the money go in and out.
Do you have any big community common areas or projects? If you don't, its really pretty simple. Upkeep on things like pools and clubhouses is generally where the PITA is.
I was just saying that usually HOA's are 501(c)3s and require a certain % of the money go into reserves and you also have to spend within a certain percentage of your budget or that money can be taxed. Budgeting, taxes, and what not are where you really need the professionals. Mostly because if something goes wrong your HOA carries insurance on them and they don't on you, so you are opening yourself up to liability.
Given that, for 43 lots its probably fairly easy. You may want to seek legal counsel also in dealing with the transition. I estimated that about 30% of dues go into management/ legal. Usually you put 10-20% into reserves, and the rest is your operating budget. Also, be very careful on the bidding. Even though you aren't on the board which I don't understand as the treasurer? You may hold some liability seeing the money go in and out.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 3:46 pm to Royal
If the previous version was a desktop version it will upload to the online site easily. Really easy to use. I'd say easier than the desktop version if you don't know anything about accounting.
You can access it anywhere which is great.
You can access it anywhere which is great.
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