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New Desktop Build Recs
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:36 pm
My desktop wouldn't power on yesterday, so I did the quick paperclip test on the power supply without any luck. Ordered new power supply and hooked it up today and the motherboard lights up for a few seconds then shuts down and repeats the cycle. I assume it's fried also. This is a computer I built in 2011, Intel i5 2500k, MSI motherboard, Patriot Gamer memory, cheap video card.
I's like to reuse my hard drives, card readers, case, dvd drives, but I assume everything I listed above will need to be replaced.
I haven't been keeping up with computer tech since then, so don't want to get caught off guard ordering things that aren't compatible. I plan on sticking with an i5 processor, but am open to motherboard and memory manufacturers.
Computer is mostly used for home office type of stuff. Have had some pretty intense Excel files, but no CAD or gaming. Also use it for my Christmas display using xlights.
I's like to reuse my hard drives, card readers, case, dvd drives, but I assume everything I listed above will need to be replaced.
I haven't been keeping up with computer tech since then, so don't want to get caught off guard ordering things that aren't compatible. I plan on sticking with an i5 processor, but am open to motherboard and memory manufacturers.
Computer is mostly used for home office type of stuff. Have had some pretty intense Excel files, but no CAD or gaming. Also use it for my Christmas display using xlights.
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:43 pm to CubsFanBudMan
Why not trash it and cannibalize parts to sell off, buy a micro pc $150-300 with all you need to get crazy in excel and pornhub
Posted on 4/2/24 at 8:20 pm to BabySam
I know I'm going overboard, but I tend to do that with electronics. I was at a tech conference for accountants many years ago, and the guy leading the intro section said to look at gaming quality components, keyboards, mice, etc. Not because you need them, but because they will last and you won't need to replace them as often. My last build lasted 13 years, so who knows what I'll need 5 or 10 years from now.
I'm mainly wondering what has changed since my last build. Should I run dual channel 8gb memory or a single 16gb stick? Any benefit to using all 4 channels over just the 2?
I know I said I planned on reusing my old hard drives, which I have a mix of a sata SSD and regular sata HDD. What would I gain by switching to an m.2 NVMe drive?
Anything i need to worry about with my Windows license?
I'm mainly wondering what has changed since my last build. Should I run dual channel 8gb memory or a single 16gb stick? Any benefit to using all 4 channels over just the 2?
I know I said I planned on reusing my old hard drives, which I have a mix of a sata SSD and regular sata HDD. What would I gain by switching to an m.2 NVMe drive?
Anything i need to worry about with my Windows license?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:06 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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know I said I planned on reusing my old hard drives, which I have a mix of a sata SSD and regular sata HDD. What would I gain by switching to an m.2 NVMe drive?
About 12 times the speed. Fastest sata SSD 550 MB/s. Gen 4 nvme's are 7000 MB/s.
Always run dual channel. No need to run 4 unless you are doing some serious multitasking.
If a digital windows license, no worries. If not, then you may need to call with some info to get reactivated. However, there are key sites out there that you can get Win11 pro for 30 bucks, activated with no problems.
If you want some great recommendations, come on over to the gaming board. You will get some questions about what you want, how you want to use, and your budget. Someone will hook you up with a good build.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:06 am to CubsFanBudMan
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I assume everything I listed above will need to be replace
Not likely. Use PCPartPicker to find compatible parts. This is an argument to be had, but you can go AMD AM4 for something far newer than you have (I have a 5600X that is 5? years old). You want to stick with Intel, you may actually benefit on buying older stuff that fits what you have. until you know what isn't actually broken, you won't be able to sell your old kit with a good conscience.
You can probably buy the same mobo that fits RAM, CPU, etc, for not much.
If you're going to have to change RAM, I'd buy the RAM sooner rather than later. You should just need mobo. You probably don't want to re-use a 13 year old proc and old RAM if you're doing a rebuild, but that's a choice. I'm AMD (I'm pretty cheap.)
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Have had some pretty intense Excel files,
I got sent a file with over a million rows to view from a client. On a Citrix desktop. I'm guessing you'll be fine :).
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:15 am to CubsFanBudMan
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but because they will last
That's horseshite. When there are no moving components, he's talking out of his arse. These aren't HDDs.
You know what you'll need 10 years from now? You'll probably figure that out in a couple of years. Don't stress.
"tech conference for accountants" sounds suspicious as hell. I have a very extensive background in training accounting grads in many technical areas, and ... eh., they got a few days (an hour?) of training in TCP/IP and had no idea what "IP ANY ANY" means.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:48 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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because they will last and you won't need to replace them as often. My last build lasted 13 years, so who knows what I'll need 5 or 10 years from now.
I'm mainly wondering what has changed since my last build.
I'd think more about what is going to change in the next 2-3 years. AI models running locally is going to be a thing and I personally think it's going to spur a big device/computer upgrade cycle. Macs with the M chips already are built for AI. Current PCs need to add expensive NVidia GPUs currently. AMD and others are working on integrating AI with the CPU. I would either go cheap so you'll feel justified upgrading again in a year or 2, or make sure whatever you build is has the latest connections/busses and will be easy to upgrade the main components.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:57 pm to LemmyLives
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That's horseshite. When there are no moving components, he's talking out of his arse. These aren't HDDs.
Anything that gets hot is a "moving component".
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:51 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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look at gaming quality components, keyboards, mice,
Many companies will attach the word "gaming" to something subpar to get sheep to buy. So, no, don't do that. There are plenty of quality components out there that don't say "gaming" on them.
As for your actual PC, there is really no difference between a "gaming" power supply or "gaming" RAM vs just RAM ( or a PSU). Actually, for productivity, you'll want to go multi-core, multi-thread on the CPU. Gaming is mostly single thread processing.
That i5-2500K is a quad core, with an LGA1155 chipset that only supports DDR3 RAM. You don't want to try to replace any of these components and you certainly can't resale them.
You can still buy LGA1155 motherboards but the best CPU you can buy for it is 3rd Gen.i7-3770k, which you may find used out there, but new would be a niche buy and would probably cost more than worth. (someone on Newegg has one for $540. Yeah, don't do that).
You would be better off looking at a Z690 MB (LGA1700) and a 12th gen Intel CPU. If you don't game or do video processing, an i5 would probably be great (a 12600k is under $200 right now) and some DDR4 RAM. Would be a super huge upgrade from your current.
If you want something future proof, you'll want to go AM5 with PCIE 5.0 support which will be a little pricey, but AM5 could be around a few more years. Hell, AMD just announced some new AM5 CPUs that will be 40% faster than the current ones.
Anyway, if you want some good feedback, seriously go post a question on the gaming board. Even if you aren't using it for gaming.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:58 pm to CubsFanBudMan
I just built a new rig and am trying to move my old one (built in 2021). I'll give it to you for cheap. Just throw in a GPU and you're ready to cook
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CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Asus ROG Strix LC 240 80.95 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Case: MSI MPG GUNGNIR 100 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G3 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:30 pm to Carson123987
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I just built a new rig and am trying to move my old one (built in 2021). I'll give it to you for cheap. Just throw in a GPU and you're ready to cook
Thats a hell of an upgrade. Thing is, I don't think he's gaming. That 9900K will be fine for spreadsheets and email.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:30 pm to Carson123987
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Carson123987
How much?
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:44 am to CubsFanBudMan
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How much?
Priced out each part as used a month or so ago and total came out to $550. I'd do 500 or best offer
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