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Mac Pro (trashcan version)...are they selling any?

Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:06 am
Posted by ColdDuck
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:06 am
Looking for sales figures and I can't find any (without it being lumped together with the Macbooks). Trying to get a feel if this is a flop or not. I support hundreds of architects and engineer users. No one ever mentions it?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:18 am to
Posted by XxxSpooky1
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:20 pm to
We use them with our Dev team. Really great machines.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:06 pm to
I'm sure they aren't selling nearly as many of the trashcans as they are macbooks and imacs and minis, but neither is Dell/HP/etc. selling more workstations than laptops and whatnot. The trashcan just has a narrow customer base: Mac users who need (or think they need) workstation hardware.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:10 pm to
Not really a consumer product. Hard to gauge something a flop that is as niche as this machine.
Posted by ColdDuck
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:49 pm to
Not saying it is a flop or not, but I get a bunch of questions about it. In fact clients don't even know that the new model is a trash can. They just want to know about options. Our clients just keep buying the traditional badass Dell/HP workstations with expensive video cards. I just don't see any in the wild.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:38 am to
do many architects and engineers use OS X?
Posted by Hermit Crab
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:36 am to
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do many architects and engineers use OS X?


without having any clue I was wondering the same thing, those seem like they would use Windows. The photographers, video editors, marketing, design people are the ones buying macs.

this article is getting a little old now, but seems like they had a bunch of demand early.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 11:39 am
Posted by ColdDuck
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:14 pm to
None of my clients use OSX in the office, but the question is still asked. I just steer them away anyway sine it doesn't play nice on the domain.
Posted by ColdDuck
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:40 pm to
I even looked on reddit and seems like there is no comments for at least ten months about the trashcan pro except some dude making the fan spin faster.

Seems like a few bought them a year ago and now they have vanished.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:49 pm to
I'm sure they sold the bulk of them at the getgo, but the machine is on an entirely different (slower) upgrade cycle than the rest of their computers. Not that I'd ever buy one, but now would be a bad time to get one until they do a refresh because they're a generation too old and still selling for the same price.
Posted by XxxSpooky1
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

None of my clients use OSX in the office, but the question is still asked. I just steer them away anyway sine it doesn't play nice on the domain.


Why can't you get OSX and windows to play nice together? We have no issues making that happen.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 1:21 am to
quote:

No one ever mentions it


quote:

I get a bunch of questions about it.




Either way, it's a niche device (10,000-30,000 a quarter). I wouldn't expect it to be the go to workstation for engineers. My friend in graphic design works on one though. Also, for most tasks the new retina 5K iMac is faster.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 1:23 am
Posted by ColdDuck
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 7:58 am to
No one ever mentions the new trashcan version.

I got questions about going Mac as an option in general.


As far as the other poster about it playing nice... Management, domain accounts, mapped drives, multiple users using their own credentials, etc. The few iMacs and macbooks we support in an AD environment seemed shoehorned in. We make them work, but no GPO support and such. They feel like they are left on an island.

Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:08 am to
From what I can tell, they're really geared towards rendering with the dual discrete GPUs. I know iOS developers that lived on the old Mac Pro, but have gone to the new iMac because it's more suited to their needs.
Posted by XxxSpooky1
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

As far as the other poster about it playing nice... Management, domain accounts, mapped drives, multiple users using their own credentials, etc. The few iMacs and macbooks we support in an AD environment seemed shoehorned in. We make them work, but no GPO support and such. They feel like they are left on an island.


You may not be able to do group policy's and such, but AD will still push profiles and such for management. Again, we support multiple clients from small businesses to enterprise to education, almost all run a mixture of equipment. We literally have no issues.
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:59 pm to
I love mine, and haven't heard anyone else complain about theirs. It's the only apple product that can be easily customized or upgraded, and it performs substantially better than the macbook pro.

My expectation was to use the mac pro as a long term anchor piece for my Intuos, monitors, scanner, NAS, etc.

With that expectation in mind, I anticipate a far better ROI with a trash can and a continual macbook air upgrade, as opposed to continually purchasing a macbook pro every couple years and using the older model as the anchor.


This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

It's the only apple product that can be easily customized or upgraded, and it performs substantially better than the macbook pro.


Besides the RAM and SSD, what else can you upgrade aftermarket?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

It's the only apple product that can be easily customized or upgraded


how so?
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

quote: It's the only apple product that can be easily customized or upgraded how so?


You ever tried to upgrade ram or ssd in a MacBook air?

Nonetheless, there's a couple companies that sell upgraded macpro processors and will pay you to return the factory components.
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