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Inverters: Safe to run laptops, devices and charge batteries?

Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:38 am
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:38 am
I've heard it said that inverters don't supply the proper type of current that laptops and other devices need that use A/C adapters - the current is inconsistent and the devices might choke. Fact or fiction? Are there certain types of inverters that are considered "safe"? This would include battery chargers that use A/C adapters. T.I.A.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:49 am to
i ran a tv and PS2 off an inverter in 2002.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22638 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:03 am to
If the inverter's capacity is enough to support that of the device, it will work.

A larger laptop could run 100 watts when charging. Your inverter will need to support that. If so, it will work.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:07 am to
As long as you have a pure Sine wave inverter and not a modified Sine wave inverter.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29984 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:12 am to
quote:

I've heard it said that inverters don't supply the proper type of current that laptops and other devices need that use A/C adapters


Any blanket statement like this should always be discounted as nonsense. Every solar power system uses inverters, every UPS system uses inverters. Do some cheaper inverters produce sloppy AC? Sure. So do a lot of portable generators (in terms of frequency, specifically).

quote:

don't supply the proper type of current that laptops and other devices need that use A/C adapters


Current is current, there are really no "types" of current. If you are using and inverter rated for 1 amp and your laptop reqyires 2.7 amps, you"ll have issues, just make sure you buy a big enough inverter.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29984 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:18 am to
quote:

As long as you have a pure Sine wave inverter and not a modified Sine wave inverter.




I would think so long as the wave form adequately matches the alternating peaks, a power supply would have no real issues, since they primarily convert the AC back to DC for the electronic circuitry. Possibly AC motors may be a little more problematic, depending on the wave form.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4053 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

I would think so long as the wave form adequately matches the alternating peaks, a power supply would have no real issues, since they primarily convert the AC back to DC for the electronic circuitry. Possibly AC motors may be a little more problematic, depending on the wave form.


Certain types of battery chargers can have problems with a square wave form and will even burn them up. Little Wal Worts often have overheating problems. Might have some extra noise in anything with a speaker. If you get a pure sine wave inverter you don't have to worry about it.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29984 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:30 pm to
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Certain types of battery chargers can have problems with a square wave form


True but I didn't read that to be what the OP was talking about, typical power supply for a laptop wouldn't blink about what you get out even the cheapest inverters, nor would most phone chargers that essentially power a USB port. I don't think you'll find many (if any) inverters for one of the big box stores that put out a square wave these days, maybe if you buy one from one of the online sites selling Chinese goods.

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If you get a pure sine wave inverter you don't have to worry about it.



Definitely true, no arguing with that.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:17 pm to
This is very informative.I was about to order a modified sine inverter. $10 extra gets you pure sine.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29984 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 4:10 pm to
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$10 extra gets you pure sine


$10 dollars well spent.
Posted by got2ears
Member since Dec 2014
7 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:31 pm to
Sounds like your laptop adapters and other "wall wart" devices are using DC power anyway, perhaps look into DC-to-DC converters?
Some of these devices will take the 12V and step it up to 19-20V power many laptops need.

Not having to convert to AC not only saves your 12V battery life, it also reduces risk of the dirty signal caused by some of the cheaper modified sine wave inverters (although I hear most of that concern is perpetuated by marketing -- it seems that most UL-approved electronics can handle even the dirtier modified sine waves just fine).

A good technical review of this can be seen here:

LINK



This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
1645 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:29 pm to
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Sine wave inverter and not a modified Sine wave inverter.


I found that the transformers run hotter when using the modified vs when I switched to a pure sign wave.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 10:25 am to
I have a pure sine wave inverter in the RV and it runs everything except for the AC. It even is able to run the microwave, hot water heater, etc
Posted by Pepperidge
Slidell
Member since Apr 2011
4311 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

I have a pure sine wave inverter in the RV and it runs everything except for the AC. It even is able to run the microwave, hot water heater, etc


Link please?
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 10:41 pm to
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