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Intel's massive 18-core Core i9 chip starts a bloody battle for enthusiast PCs
Posted on 5/30/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 5/30/17 at 12:57 pm
Intel finally came out with a new CPU, i9.
pcworld
The X299 chipset also provides up to 24 PCI Express 3.0 lanes vs. the eight PCIe lanes of Broadwell-E’s X99 chipset. Additional PCIe for such things as high-speed PCIe NVMe drives can also be plumbed directly into the PCIe coming from the CPU itself. On CPUs with 10-cores and up, a full 44 lanes of PCIe 3.0 lanes are available for use.
The X299 supports faster DDR4-2066 memory, though it’s not clear how much. Intel also tweaked its cache hierarchy, an in-the-weeds adjustment that apparently reduces the overall size of the cache, in favor of putting more near the individual processors. Intel says its new cache shows a higher “hit” rate, which means Intel was probably able to cut the size of the chip but maintain its cache performance.
It’s all something to get excited about, whether you’re a potential Core i9 or Core i7 X-series buyer. We’re likely to see motherboard makers and PC makers alike jump on the Core i9 bandwagon, if nothing else but to bring in more of those premium gamer dollars. We’ll keep our eyes peeled for these, and more, this week at Computex
pcworld
The X299 chipset also provides up to 24 PCI Express 3.0 lanes vs. the eight PCIe lanes of Broadwell-E’s X99 chipset. Additional PCIe for such things as high-speed PCIe NVMe drives can also be plumbed directly into the PCIe coming from the CPU itself. On CPUs with 10-cores and up, a full 44 lanes of PCIe 3.0 lanes are available for use.
The X299 supports faster DDR4-2066 memory, though it’s not clear how much. Intel also tweaked its cache hierarchy, an in-the-weeds adjustment that apparently reduces the overall size of the cache, in favor of putting more near the individual processors. Intel says its new cache shows a higher “hit” rate, which means Intel was probably able to cut the size of the chip but maintain its cache performance.
It’s all something to get excited about, whether you’re a potential Core i9 or Core i7 X-series buyer. We’re likely to see motherboard makers and PC makers alike jump on the Core i9 bandwagon, if nothing else but to bring in more of those premium gamer dollars. We’ll keep our eyes peeled for these, and more, this week at Computex
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:29 pm to t00f
Boys this is what we've dreamed about for so long.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:33 pm to 50_Tiger
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Boys this is what we've dreamed about for so long.
Yep, until we learn they're $2000+.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 7:01 am
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:35 pm to brucevilanch
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ep, until we learning they're $2000+.
It'll come down pretty quick, AMD is already competing at this speed.
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:49 pm to t00f
Just as AMD has released their new flagship processors, Intel is looking in the rearview mirror at AMD again. 
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:53 pm to t00f
Does a non-gamer need the high i-series?
I just do work on my laptop and constantly have Chrome and FF open with like 5+ tabs on each open all the time. I don't use video editing, but some video watching. I feel like my current laptop (about 3 years old) runs too laggy. It's Intel Core i7-2670 (QM) CPU @ 2.20 GHz 8 gb ram and I put in a 256gb SSD.
What are the things that's most important to be able to process a bunch of things, internet surf a few pages on different tabs, etc without lag?
ETA: my fan seems like it's always running with hot air blowing out the side.
I just do work on my laptop and constantly have Chrome and FF open with like 5+ tabs on each open all the time. I don't use video editing, but some video watching. I feel like my current laptop (about 3 years old) runs too laggy. It's Intel Core i7-2670 (QM) CPU @ 2.20 GHz 8 gb ram and I put in a 256gb SSD.
What are the things that's most important to be able to process a bunch of things, internet surf a few pages on different tabs, etc without lag?
ETA: my fan seems like it's always running with hot air blowing out the side.
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:10 pm to Sho Nuff
I doubt you need an i7 for what you do. Get one of the higher end i5s and you should see more speed. I think I have the 3.3ghz i5 and I run all kinds of stuff simoltaneously
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:34 pm to Sho Nuff
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Does a non-gamer need the high i-series?
Yea. This is a data miner's dream come true
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:55 pm to jeff5891
being able to run 18 concurrent threads at once on a billion record BLOB does sound pretty appealing
Posted on 5/30/17 at 5:31 pm to Sho Nuff
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Does a non-gamer need the high i-series?
I just do work on my laptop and constantly have Chrome and FF open with like 5+ tabs on each open all the time. I don't use video editing, but some video watching. I feel like my current laptop (about 3 years old) runs too laggy. It's Intel Core i7-2670 (QM) CPU @ 2.20 GHz 8 gb ram and I put in a 256gb SSD.
What are the things that's most important to be able to process a bunch of things, internet surf a few pages on different tabs, etc without lag?
ETA: my fan seems like it's always running with hot air blowing out the side.
For that no. Work I do, yes.
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:25 am to GurleyGirl
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Just as AMD has released their new flagship processors, Intel is looking in the rearview mirror at AMD again.
Ryzen still appears to be a better buy for the price/performance with the prices of these new Intels.
Wait to see the benchmarks.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:48 am to 50_Tiger
quote:and what do you plan on using this for?
Boys this is what we've dreamed about for so long.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:04 am to CarRamrod
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and what do you plan on using this for?
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Yea. This is a data miner's dream come true
Bitcoin!
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:07 am to TigerFanatic99
so if this think costs 2k and a bit coin is 2200. how long before you make your money back?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:26 am to CarRamrod
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so if this think costs 2k and a bit coin is 2200. how long before you make your money back?
Probably a few years. I really have no idea how much effort is required to mind one BC right now, but at this point in the life cycle of the currency I would assume it is pretty intensive. Doesn't the computing required for one BC rise exponentially over time?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:30 am to TigerFanatic99
and doesn't it have potential to not be a "new" BTC that you can deposit?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 3:45 pm to LEASTBAY
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I doubt you need an i7 for what you do. Get one of the higher end i5s and you should see more speed. I think I have the 3.3ghz i5 and I run all kinds of stuff simoltaneously
Thanks. Kinda considering a SP5 since I travel for work but I worry that will be even worse lag although I don't know their speeds since I didn't see it listed. May just get another laptop and try to get the most ram and speed if that'll do the trick.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 6:50 pm to t00f
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This morning I felt a little bit bad for Intel. The Core X-series chips are the most interesting thing they’ve done in the high-end desktop space since the glory days of the Skulltrail platform. It’s good to see that they are responding to competitive pressure and that they are willing to adjust their strategy as necessary. Perhaps Charlie came down a shade too hard when he declared that, “Kaby-X is not only a bad product it is a marketing disaster.” But then AMD committed offering all 64 PCI-E lanes and 4 DDR4 memory channels on every ThreadRipper SKU regardless of price, clockspeed, or core count. These Core X-series chips haven’t even been publicly announced for a full 24 hours and already its clear that AMD’s offering the better chip.
Once again Intel’s mindless up-selling strategy has given AMD a very valuable window of opportunity to exploit. Even Intel’s best Core X-Series chips will only offer 44 PCI-E lanes, 20 fewer lanes than AMD’s cheapest Ryzen ThreadRipper part. The midrange parts are where the competition will be the most fierce, but even there AMD appears set to offer more cores per dollar and more than double the 28 PCI-E lanes of six and eight core Intel parts. The comparison gets even more silly when we think about the entry-level Core X-series CPUs which are based not on server chips but rather mainstream desktop chips.
These Kabylake-X parts offer a mere 16 PCI-E lanes and dual channel memory. Worse yet they are saddled with the complex and expensive socket LGA 2066 socket and X299 chipset. Buying a one of these Kabylake-X chips in place of a standard Kabylake chip is absolutely a mistake. You’ll be paying more money for a very limited performance improvement compared to a Z270-based alternative and gaining the privilege of plunking down 2 to 10 times as much money as you paid for your initial Kabylake-X chip at some point in the future if you decide that you need moar cores.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:24 pm to UltimateHog
That might be true but I am not buying AMD for any type of hardware.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:34 pm to t00f
Ryzen is a damn fine cpu tho. I cant wait to get my hands on a 6 core
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