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re: Do programmers prefer Macs over Windows computers?

Posted on 7/28/14 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 5:04 pm to
Didn't expect you to say the display died. But everything else, 100% what I expected. What model year is your MacBook Pro?
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 5:49 pm to
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But everything else, 100% what I expected.


and you were ready to pounce...

the fact is rot is real though, and the PC industry has made a killing off of folks trading in a perfectly good machine because it ran like a dog. Also, addressing performance decay is another factor in cost of ownership when you're a contractor unable to bill hours.

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What model year is your MacBook Pro?


2011. At this point it still runs like a champ, hopefully I'll get another 2-3 years out of it. But as I said, I'm pretty rough on them.


Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:26 pm to
Well, I've covered the hard drive performance topic with OS X and Windows thoroughly enough in other threads, as well as the myth behind maintenance time, and the topic of SSD performance being incorrectly attributed to "Apple quality." Although, the 2011 Macbook Pro weren't exclusively shipping with SSDs at that point. Does yours have one?

I'm always curious, with people who truly believe Macs are physically better, where the misconception originated. And as I've said before, I'm not anti-Apple. There are reasons to prefer the brand. It's just that the quality of the internals is not one of those reasons. Some people believe Apple's manufacturers are different and therefore better.

I do hate that Windows PC vendors still shove off-label 5400 RPM HDDs in low-end machines, though, just to shave off another $50 and advertise a higher GB number.
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 6:29 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Does yours have one?


no...

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I'm always curious, with people who truly believe Macs are physically better, where the misconception originated.


I think it's because many folks have bought cheap systems that are physically worse than Macs, especially during the "clone shop on the corner" days. It's the same argument as the one in the Android thread, Android gets the wrap because it can run on crappy phones.

Posted by euphemus
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Didn't expect you to say the display died. But everything else, 100% what I expected.

So you acknowledge that Windows machines slow down over time with use? But you have said many times in this board that the MacBook advantage comes mainly from the SSD. I'm confused. If you ran Windows on an SSD will it not slow down after a couple of years? Will it keep running as fast as it was when it was new?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:23 pm to
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So you acknowledge that Windows machines slow down over time with use? But you have said many times in this board that the MacBook advantage comes mainly from the SSD. I'm confused. If you ran Windows on an SSD will it not slow down after a couple of years? Will it keep running as fast as it was when it was new?


do you even develop bro?

PCs 'slow down' due to a bloated registry, constantly installing apps & stuff, etc.

a developer would spin up virtual machine(s) and run an optimized version of windows with just the IDE and web & database services, etc. necessary for development.

its not like you're running Steam and 1,000 different instant messaging and social applications..AND doing development in that environment.

in other words, if you set your environment up correctly..which most developers know how to, your PC 'slowing down' is a moot concept.

eta same with video editors. they always keep a lean OS imaged with everything OFF except what they need so they can render 3D and compress video in an optimal fashion.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 12:28 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:58 pm to
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So you acknowledge that Windows machines slow down over time with use? But you have said many times in this board that the MacBook advantage comes mainly from the SSD. I'm confused. If you ran Windows on an SSD will it not slow down after a couple of years? Will it keep running as fast as it was when it was new?


Here's a post I made on that subject: LINK
Posted by sincerecontact
Member since Mar 2014
114 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:54 pm to
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People complaining about IE being a good web browser is a pretty common theme on the web, but it's a pretty great browser, particularly when it comes to serious web apps, particularly things like Jail Management Systems and Electronic Health Records.

Leaving IE out of the discussion, I would argue that those "serious web apps" are actually pretty bad, outdated, applications. At my company, there are large departments which can't upgrade their OS because some critically important legacy web app won't work on a modern, standards-based, web browser (including more recent versions of IE).

It blows my mind that companies can still market a web application that is locked-in to a single, specific, web browser (and not even the most recent version of that browser).
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