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Desk Top Recommendations?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:34 pm
Didn't there used to be a thread on here about building your own desk top?
I'm looking to upgrade my EMachines desk top from 2004 ( ) and need help.
I will be using it for internet browsing/research, music, and videos. I don't play games so I don't need a super computer. Just something that will run quick with ample space for the music I have and the ability to watch videos without taking 10 minutes. My current desktop has a GPU video card (I think this is what it is called) and it sucks.
Any ideas where to start?
ETA: I'd be doing some video editing as well
I'm looking to upgrade my EMachines desk top from 2004 ( ) and need help.
I will be using it for internet browsing/research, music, and videos. I don't play games so I don't need a super computer. Just something that will run quick with ample space for the music I have and the ability to watch videos without taking 10 minutes. My current desktop has a GPU video card (I think this is what it is called) and it sucks.
Any ideas where to start?
ETA: I'd be doing some video editing as well
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:56 pm to catfish 62
sigh...
budget?
just want something off the shelf I'm assuming? Need a new monitor?
what video editing program and how much video editing do you do? Hobbyist, semi-professional, etc?
Why does the GPU suck? Do you play games?
budget?
just want something off the shelf I'm assuming? Need a new monitor?
what video editing program and how much video editing do you do? Hobbyist, semi-professional, etc?
Why does the GPU suck? Do you play games?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:04 pm to catfish 62
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I'm looking to upgrade my EMachines desk top from 2004
That thing is a relic
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:25 pm to RollTideATL
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I'm looking to upgrade my EMachines desk top from 2004
That thing is a relic
I've seen LeapPads that are probably more powerful than that.
OP, an iPad with iMovie wouldn't be bad if you're mainly editing video shot with the device.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:53 pm to catfish 62
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EMachines desk top from 2004
I'm running autocad on a Dell 8400 from 2004. Hums like a love sick rhino.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:22 pm to catfish 62
New Imac with the new 5K retina display, I'm sure haters are gonna hate.
I have a 2011 model and use it for what you describe.
I also have a windows machine for gaming.
I have a 2011 model and use it for what you describe.
I also have a windows machine for gaming.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:01 am to ILikeLSUToo
Budget is $500 max.
I already have a monitor and the video editing needs to be something basic and compatible with GoPro. Wasn't sure if you need a soup' up video card in order to use the new technology out there. As you can see, I haven't been in the market for a long time. GoPro videos are hobby.
The GPU sucks because it's 10+ years old and doesn't even let me watch YouTube videos without choppiness and skipping.
I'm not opposed to a shelf computer from a box store, but think a build would be best. I am obviously aware that my budget may price me out of building my own though.
Thanks for the help.
ETA: I don't play games & I already have all accessories (mouse/keyboard/speakers etc)
I already have a monitor and the video editing needs to be something basic and compatible with GoPro. Wasn't sure if you need a soup' up video card in order to use the new technology out there. As you can see, I haven't been in the market for a long time. GoPro videos are hobby.
The GPU sucks because it's 10+ years old and doesn't even let me watch YouTube videos without choppiness and skipping.
I'm not opposed to a shelf computer from a box store, but think a build would be best. I am obviously aware that my budget may price me out of building my own though.
Thanks for the help.
ETA: I don't play games & I already have all accessories (mouse/keyboard/speakers etc)
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 8:03 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:04 pm to catfish 62
Nope, you can totally build one. You don't need a video card either, just use intel integrated graphics. GPU-acceleration is task specific and program specific. If you're just doing basic editing of GoPro footage, you probably will never encounter a scenario in which a better GPU would be beneficial. But you can always add one later just in case.
I am including an i5 in this part list vs. an 8-core option like the 8350 because the i5 will be faster in basic editing programs like Windows Live Movie maker (more emphasis on its per-core performance vs. multi-threaded beyond 4 cores), which is the software I would recommend for basic editing. It's user-friendly and plays well enough with all levels of CPU horsepower. If you want to get more advanced than Movie Maker, then maybe an AMD FX-8350/8320 instead, but we'd need to find a discrete graphics card to go along with it.
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E35 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.39 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M550 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($36.25 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $493.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-12 12:59 EST-0500
If you find a better value in a $500 pre-built, go ahead and get it. I didn't look any up, but often you'll find pretty decent deals in non-gaming pre-builts. Just use this as a reference when looking. i5 (or 8350 with some sort of discrete graphics), 8GB RAM minimum, and an SSD wouldn't hurt (but don't expect to find that in pre-builts at this budget. Better to find a $450 pre-built and add the SSD yourself).
I am including an i5 in this part list vs. an 8-core option like the 8350 because the i5 will be faster in basic editing programs like Windows Live Movie maker (more emphasis on its per-core performance vs. multi-threaded beyond 4 cores), which is the software I would recommend for basic editing. It's user-friendly and plays well enough with all levels of CPU horsepower. If you want to get more advanced than Movie Maker, then maybe an AMD FX-8350/8320 instead, but we'd need to find a discrete graphics card to go along with it.
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E35 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.39 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M550 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($36.25 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $493.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-12 12:59 EST-0500
If you find a better value in a $500 pre-built, go ahead and get it. I didn't look any up, but often you'll find pretty decent deals in non-gaming pre-builts. Just use this as a reference when looking. i5 (or 8350 with some sort of discrete graphics), 8GB RAM minimum, and an SSD wouldn't hurt (but don't expect to find that in pre-builts at this budget. Better to find a $450 pre-built and add the SSD yourself).
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:03 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Awesome - I really appreciate the help
I'm going to look at your post and read into it further when I get home from the office. I'm sure I'll have further questions later. Thanks !
I'm going to look at your post and read into it further when I get home from the office. I'm sure I'll have further questions later. Thanks !
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:45 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Here's a stupid question for you, does the build you sent have wireless internet capability? Is that something standard in all desktops nowadays? If it is, what part of the computer has this feature? Or if not, is that an extra expense ?
Also, I should have clarified that I wouldn't be building it myself. That will probably change your pricing estimate since that will cost money and also change the prices of the parts since I think you would have to buy them all from the same place to get it built?
Also, I should have clarified that I wouldn't be building it myself. That will probably change your pricing estimate since that will cost money and also change the prices of the parts since I think you would have to buy them all from the same place to get it built?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:52 pm to catfish 62
No, it doesn't have wifi. It's not a standard feature of desktop computers. Yes, it's a minor extra expense to add a wifi adapter.
Watch the 45-minute youtube video from newegg to learn to build one yourself, or just get a Dell/ASUS/HP/etc.
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Also, I should have clarified that I wouldn't be building it myself. That will probably change your pricing estimate since that will cost money and also change the prices of the parts since I think you would have to buy them all from the same place to get it built?
Watch the 45-minute youtube video from newegg to learn to build one yourself, or just get a Dell/ASUS/HP/etc.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:57 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Cool. I'll probably try it myself if it doesn't appear to difficult based on the video.
I'm reading about SSD memory right now. What's the benefit you see in having both types in your computers?
I also assume that the motherboard you recommended has a video card slot if I decide to get one at a later date? Are the Gpu graphics in the Chip?
I'm reading about SSD memory right now. What's the benefit you see in having both types in your computers?
I also assume that the motherboard you recommended has a video card slot if I decide to get one at a later date? Are the Gpu graphics in the Chip?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:59 pm to catfish 62
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I will be using it for internet browsing/research, music, and videos. I don't play games so I don't need a super computer. Just something that will run quick with ample space for the music I have and the ability to watch videos without taking 10 minutes.
Sounds like you could get away with an HTPC (Home Theater PC). I got one for sale during the Christmas season ($200) and it does basic computing stuff no problem and serves as a fine torrent box. Just don't expect it to play games. Like any games.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:18 pm to catfish 62
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I'm reading about SSD memory right now. What's the benefit you see in having both types in your computers?
SSDs provide a massive increase in read/write performance and access times. As such, they are best suited to hold your operating system and software. Their cost/GB is still too high to be used as general file storage in most builds, hence the much more economical 1TB mechanical hard drive to store movies, music, pictures, documents, etc., which don't benefit nearly as much from SSD speeds.
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I also assume that the motherboard you recommended has a video card slot if I decide to get one at a later date?
Yep
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Are the Gpu graphics in the Chip?
Yeah, the CPU has integrated Intel HD Graphics 4600.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:46 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Gotcha - I'm thinking of upgrading to 256 SSD and using my 1 TB external hard drive for supplemental storage.
Do you have the chip you recommended? Few things I've read have said the stock cooler it comes with is garbage. Other than that, looks like it's one of the best in its class in terms of speed and value. I probably won't need to worry about overheating since I won't be gaming, but just curious.
Do you have the chip you recommended? Few things I've read have said the stock cooler it comes with is garbage. Other than that, looks like it's one of the best in its class in terms of speed and value. I probably won't need to worry about overheating since I won't be gaming, but just curious.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:05 pm to catfish 62
Just sprang for a Lenovo C300 Think Station
Intel® Xeon™ E3-1200V3 (Haswell Refresh)
Nvidia Quadro K600 Graphics Card
16 gigs RAM
2 Terrabyte HD
Intel® Xeon™ E3-1200V3 (Haswell Refresh)
Nvidia Quadro K600 Graphics Card
16 gigs RAM
2 Terrabyte HD
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:20 pm to catfish 62
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Do you have the chip you recommended?
I have an i7-4770K, but I have installed countless i5's, i3's, AMD FX/Phenoms, etc. in client builds back when I used to do this sort of thing for money. Overall I like Intel for its superior single-threaded performance, which translates to better "general" performance in a wider range of tasks. Any of the current i5s would be excellent, but that one was particularly the best value at the moment. Prices on components change all the time, even daily.
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Few things I've read have said the stock cooler it comes with is garbage.
Rule of thumb is that stock coolers are garbage. This is generally a sentiment expressed by gamers and other PC enthusiasts who will frequently push hardware to its limits. We don't like the stock coolers (that goes for both Intel and AMD) because they're loud and don't cool as well as basically all other aftermarket solutions. It's a big concern when you're running longer CPU-intensive tasks -- gaming for hours on end, for example.
For short bursts of gopro footage encoding, I don't think an aftermarket cooler is totally necessary. Every off-the-shelf solution is going to use the stock cooler, meant for the same casual type of usage you're planning for. If noise ends up being an issue, there are several low profile coolers on the market. Too many for me to bother keeping up with (I'm a walking encyclopedia on liquid cooling, but the air cooling market just never interested me). Someone else in the PC thread on the gaming board will have a recommendation.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:22 pm to ILikeLSUToo
So I've finally come down to being able to purchase, but one last question before I do.
What are your thoughts on not purchasing an internal hard drive and using the savings from that to get a 256 GB SSD drive instead of the 128GB. I have a 1TB external hard drive that could be used for additional storage.
What are your thoughts on not purchasing an internal hard drive and using the savings from that to get a 256 GB SSD drive instead of the 128GB. I have a 1TB external hard drive that could be used for additional storage.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:28 pm to catfish 62
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Desk Top Recommendations?
i personally like formica
Posted on 1/26/15 at 6:32 pm to catfish 62
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What are your thoughts on not purchasing an internal hard drive and using the savings from that to get a 256 GB SSD drive instead of the 128GB. I have a 1TB external hard drive that could be used for additional storage.
Totally comes down to preference. If you'll make use of that extra SSD space with more programs and such, go for it. If the external is going to have large files you intend to access frequently, USB 3.0 would be preferable. That's the reason I have a couple of internal HDDs in my main PC. I use actively use them daily for documents, videos, games, torrenting, etc.
However, I just bought a 4TB WD Red (latest revision) and one of these docks:
For sequential writes, it outperforms my old WD black by a lot, and my seagate 3TB by a little (The red is still empty though). It would be perfectly fine for supplemental desktop storage.
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