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Best 27/28 inch monitor for $500 (July/August 2015)?

Posted on 7/30/15 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 4:20 pm
Looking for recommendations - budget is $500 - it will go with a new Skylake build next month. It will be paired with either top tier Nvidia or AMD card (or 1 behind). I would like to go display port, but that's not required.

I have a brand bias towards ASUS, generally, but have never used one of their monitors. Mrs. Midnight uses my old, 2003, 20" Dell monitor that has been an absolute champ. I have a brand bias against Samsung (hype over substance, IMHO), but recognize they're a leader and am considering them.

I am willing to be convinced on BenQ or other makers.

Will be for general computing, including some gaming, media playback, etc.

Any and all thoughts are appreciated.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 4:32 pm to
I think you ought to treat yourself to variable refresh rates. The cost of entry is lower if you go with an AMD card. At it stands, I'm trapped in proprietary NVidia hell, so I still haven't pulled the trigger on what would be a $700+ 1440P 144Hz or 4k 60hz g-sync panel. You can get an Acer 1440p/144hz TN freesync panel for $499, maybe less. (UltimateHog got a refurbished one for $400 I believe).If you like ASUS, you might as well like Acer. You can make it an ASUS IPS panel for $599.


This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/30/15 at 4:42 pm to
So, you're firmly in the "144 over 4k, unless there is a very specific need for 4k" camp? That's interesting.

I'm torn, because 4k is clearly the future, and I tend to wring all the life out of components (I mentioned I have a 12-year old Dell monitor still happily doing its business, right?). But, the real world performance of 144mhz (particularly in IPS) is hard to ignore as well.

And, as I mentioned in my "Haswell or wait for Skylake" thread, I tend to go AMD on the video side. Additionally, I'm a complete idiot on Gsync, freesync, and hopefully this thread gets me up to speed on those issues.

I've been doing display research, recently, but that was mainly for a television purchase. There is not nearly as much cross-value to that research as I would have liked.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 4:57 pm to
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So, you're firmly in the "144 over 4k, unless there is a very specific need for 4k" camp? That's interesting.


I'm firmly in the "144 over 4K, unless you have the GPU bandwidth to keep a reasonable and consistent framerate." The only single-GPU solutions that I think qualify as a good entry into 4K are the R9 Fury X, GTX 980 Ti, and Titan X. Otherwise, you're sacrificing far too many visual enhancements just to give the GPU enough bandwidth to push all of those pixels. There's always super-sampling. DSR for NVIDIA and VSR for AMD. Renders at a higher resolution and rescales to your monitor's. It's a night-and-day enhancement rivaling 4k, because the higher rendering resolution increases various in-game texture resolutions, which are normally rendered below native resolution. It's always going to look nicer to super-sample at 1440P than it would look to play a game at 1440P on a 4K monitor.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 4:59 pm to
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UltimateHog got a refurbished one for $400 I believe)


Yep $399 on Amazon from Acer Outlet store, couldn't be happier with it either. Fantastic monitor.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 5:05 pm to
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Additionally, I'm a complete idiot on Gsync, freesync, and hopefully this thread gets me up to speed on those issues.


Freesync and g-sync are marketing names for variable refresh rate/adaptive sync technology. AMD calls theirs Freesync, and Nvidia's gsync.

Variable refresh rate/adaptive sync means your monitor's refresh rate is dynamic. Your video card controls the refresh rate based on how quickly it renders frames. This eliminates visible screen tearing, lag, and stutter that occur when your frame rates fluctuate and don't match the steady interval refresh of a standard LCD display.

NVidia implented it first by selling a proprietary chip to monitor makers. AMD worked with VESA to add adaptive sync as an optional feature into the Display Port 1.2a standard. No need for a proprietary chip, hence cheaper monitors.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 5:15 pm to
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The only single-GPU solutions that I think qualify as a good entry into 4K are the R9 Fury X, GTX 980 Ti, and Titan X.


Okay - so if I've narrowed it down to a R9 Fury X or a GTX 980 Ti, do I need to re-evaluate my monitor budget?

And then what should I be looking at (assuming I stay 27/28 inches)?

(To keep it in perspective, I've revised my original budget - I'm going $2k or under sans the monitor for the upcoming Skylake build - and I'm going to start, Day 1 with Windows 10.)
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 5:18 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 6:02 pm to
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do I need to re-evaluate my monitor budget?


If you want 4k adaptive sync, your choices are:

AMD Freesync: Samsung U28E590D for $599. Its adaptive range is 40-60hz

NVidia G-Sync: Acer XB280HK for $696 Its adaptive range is 20-60hz I believe.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 6:21 pm to
Also the Acer XG270HU is 10% off brand new on Amazon right now so $449. Steal. Use VSR... Profit.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 6:44 pm to
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AMD Freesync: Samsung U28E590D for $599. Its adaptive range is 40-60hz



Damn, that seems like a lot of monitor for the money.
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