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re: AT&T will cut its Next payment plans from 4 to 2 starting on June 9

Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:15 am to
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11725 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:15 am to
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Estimated iPhone 6s build cost pegged at $211.50, iPhone 6s Plus at $236


iPad Air 2 models cost Apple $275 to $358, teardowns reveal

There is a reason why Apple is such a profitable company.


While Apple does charge a lot for the products they make there are a lot more costs other than material costs that go into bringing a product to market and running a company. Revenue has to cover all the costs to run the company not just the material costs.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25812 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:21 pm to
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there is an extra cost associated with R&D, engineering, testing, etc. for the phone due to its size.


I don't want to hear that horse shite.
When you look at tablets, the bigger, the more expensive. Yet i'm supposed to believe that you can't fit everything in an iphone6 that you can in a ipad mini so i have to pay twice as much?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:53 pm to
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I don't want to hear that horse shite.



Ok, then don't hear it. I didn't say it accounted for all of the extra cost, but it's part of it. A lot of it has to do with PCB design, particularly fitting the same number of tracers (wires/connections) in a smaller area via layering, and the SOC design. The rest of the cost disparity can be chalked up to capitalism, of course. It'll be the reason phone prices likely come down soon, too.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:59 pm to
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I don't want to hear that horse shite.
When you look at tablets, the bigger, the more expensive. Yet i'm supposed to believe that you can't fit everything in an iphone6 that you can in a ipad mini
While it does cost more to make things smaller, the iPhone also has a newer processor, 3D touch screen (not sure what that costs), a better camera (more mp's and OIS), and probably several other features over the iPad mini. If the iPad mini truly was just a scaled up iPhone with the exact same specs and features, it would likely cost more.

But then there's the fact that costs have less to do with prices than people realize. Prices are set to maximize profit per unit of time, not per unit sold.
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so i have to pay twice as much?
It's not that you have to, it's that people are willing to.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25812 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 12:59 pm to
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A lot of it has to do with PCB design, particularly fitting the same number of tracers (wires/connections) in a smaller area via layering, and the SOC design


so at what size does it start costing more?
Why is the Ipad a lot more than the ipad mini?
Phones keep getting bigger and bigger, and more and more expensive. I don't believe for one second that it cost much more to make a Iphone than it does an ipad mini.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:18 pm to
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Phones keep getting bigger and bigger, and more and more expensive.


For the most part this is not true. The iPhone 6S full retail price is the same as the full retail price of the iPhone 3G when it first came out. The 6S plus is more expensive, but it too is the same full retail price that he 6 plus was when it first came out.

This isn't even getting into the falling prices of high end Android phones or the iPhone SE that has close to the same internals as the 6S in the same form factor as the 5 and 5S and is $200 cheaper than the 6S.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 1:20 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:28 pm to
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so at what size does it start costing more?
Why is the Ipad a lot more than the ipad mini?


Are these rhetorical questions? I wouldn't want to further interfere with your exact narrative.

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I don't believe for one second that it cost much more to make a Iphone than it does an ipad mini.


Then why don't you research it so you don't have to use the word "believe"? BOM is the same or similar. Design/engineering (not part of BOM) has an increased cost, a cost that I never said accounted for all of the price disparity. Accounting for everything, the profit margins on phones are still higher than they are on tablets and, at least in Apple's case, probably well exceed the company's gross profit margin. That's because we want phones more than tablets.

Christ, this forum is already almost as bad as the OT. Don't devolve it to Poliboard status.
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