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Anyone use DishNet internet?

Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:16 am
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
9754 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:16 am
I am about to close on a house and I'm debating whether I want to switch to Dish or stick with Cox.
Currently I have both as I use Cox in home and a Dish Network account only during football season for tailgating. But it would save me a lot of trouble if I could just use Dish with their internet service in home. But I'm not sure how crappy satellite internet is compared to cable internet.

Thoughts?
Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
8928 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:18 am to
My dad had DishNet but ended up cancelling it. It's pretty terrible as far as speeds go. If you have Cox, I would definitely stay with them.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:25 am to
DishNet is pretty much the last resort internet service. Pretty much anything you can get over cable or phone line is going to be better and cheaper.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:34 am to
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DishNet is pretty much the last resort internet service.
Absolutely. They call it "high speed", and it may be reasonably fast once a download starts, but to understand why it's terrible you need to know how the internet (and physics) works.

When you go to a webpage, your browser first has to ask a DNS server where to find that particular website. That's one "round trip" request. Then it has to use that information to hit the actual site you want to go to. That's another round trip. Then a typical webpage contains links to tons of other resources (css files, javascript files, images), each of which requires another request.

Across the ground, whether via cable, dsl, or even dialup, these requests shouldn't have to travel more than about 12k miles (halfway around the world) one-way. Actually, most of these servers you will be visiting are in the US, so typically the distance is less than 3k miles. At the speed of light, a signal would take less than 40 milliseconds to make a round trip. This is called latency or the "ping" time. In reality, the signals travel a bit slower, and there are (very brief) stopping points along the way, and a typical ping time for me on cable internet is about 100ms or less.

Satellite internet signals have to travel up into space to hit the satellite, then travel back down to the ground, THEN travel along the surface like a typical land-based service, then travel back up to the satellite, then finally back down to your home. That is FOUR times the signal has to travel back/forth to space, and geostationary satellites have to orbit 22k miles high. That's 88k extra miles a satellite internet signal has to travel ON TOP OF the typical internet distances. Light can only travel 186k miles per second, so at the very least it adds 475ms to your ping times. Half a second might not seem like much, but it is an eternity on the internet, especially considering many requests require two or more of those round trips to really get things started.

There are "tricks" that they can do to reduce these times, but all in all the experience is pretty shitty. You absolutely cannot play real-time online games. On top of that, they have very small data caps so you can't really use Netflix or things like that very much, assuming the quality would be worth a shite anyway.


So, yeah, don't get satellite internet unless you have absolutely zero other choices. This might change in the future if someone launches a decent low earth orbit satellite network, but until then forget about satellite.
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
9754 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:17 am to
Thanks for the info guys. Was trying to cut corners but like everyone else, I don't have the patience to deal with crappy internet when streaming. Definitely sticking with Cox.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77929 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:47 pm to
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Thoughts?



No.

No!

NO!
Posted by robchand58
Denham Springs LA
Member since Nov 2012
626 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:50 am to
I have Exede, only because there is no other option at the east end of E Feliciana Parish near the Amite River.

It's expensive. I get 18 GB of data/mo for about $100. You won't be gaming with it, or streaming anything.

If all you do is check email, and Facebook occasionally, you'll do OK, likely with an even smaller data allowance. I have it MAINLY so the wife and daughter can file their lesson plans, we can pay bills, etc.

If you have a wired option, take it. If you HAVE to have dish-delivered internet, use it for what it is. An occasional connection to the web, not something that keeps you in the stream of life.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29124 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:52 am to
my old dish installer straight up told me it was garbage internet for old people.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:32 am to
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I have Exede, only because there is no other option at the east end of E Feliciana Parish near the Amite River.
I wonder why nobody is starting up wireless ISPs in these areas
Posted by Maniac979
The Great State of Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1904 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 12:24 pm to
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internet for old people.


BS...internet for people who have no other option.
Posted by Maniac979
The Great State of Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1904 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 12:44 pm to
if you have cell phone service, that is another option.
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3768 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 12:48 pm to
Satellite just sucks mainly because of the latency. There are better options in the cellular world if you look hard enough. Tmobile is an option without breaking the TOS if you have adequate service, but their new One plan requires that most data be used on the phone and not through tethering if you hit the 97th percentile in usage which is currently 26 GB.

At&t and Sprint both have unlimited options,(At&t requires direct TV service to get theirs) but tethering is either not available or too limited for home ISP use. You can get around this by jailbreaking/rooting and using third party hotspot solutions. You'd probably be safe if you kept it under 100 GB per line per month, but they may cancel your plan for violating the TOS.

Verizon use to be the best in this situation, but they have long since stopped offering unlimited plans. However there are still options with them. You can still buy an unlimited plan for them through ebay which is fast but expensive. Ebay also has devices flashed to unlimited Verizon 3G. Obviously this wouldn't be ideal, but if you can get ~1 mbs down with it, it's still better than Satellite. You could watch SD video and even game with it unlike satellite and it only costs like $5 per month. The Verizon option also leaves you open to potentially being canceled if you go over 100 GB per month, but all of these options provide more data and a better experience than satellite. You can also use an MVNO of one of the big 4 and root/jailbreak to do the same thing at a lower price point.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 5:23 pm
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