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Anyone here use the Insteon Hub for home automation?
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:28 am
My main issue is I want to be able to control some flood lights on a detached garage about 75ft away form the house. The Insteaon hub and switch seems like it'll give me the best range to be able to control from the house plus is won't matter what type of bulbs I put in the fixture. Anyone have an experience with this?
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:46 am to Tigerdew
you better like the insteon world because you're stuck in it.
not to get too into the details; but there are generic home automation standards that will do the job cheaper and provide you with many more options.
a smarthings, vera or wink hub (while all have flaws) have the advantage of supporting just about every single one of these wireless standards.
zwave and zigbee (not sure about insteon) bulbs, switches, etc. will pass a command from one to the next so you can dramatically extend the range of your home automation without expensive repeaters aka WiFi.
do a little more research before pulling the trigger on the insteon hub.
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The Insteaon hub and switch seems like it'll give me the best range to be able to control from the house plus is won't matter what type of bulbs I put in the fixture.
not to get too into the details; but there are generic home automation standards that will do the job cheaper and provide you with many more options.
a smarthings, vera or wink hub (while all have flaws) have the advantage of supporting just about every single one of these wireless standards.
zwave and zigbee (not sure about insteon) bulbs, switches, etc. will pass a command from one to the next so you can dramatically extend the range of your home automation without expensive repeaters aka WiFi.
do a little more research before pulling the trigger on the insteon hub.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:03 pm to Tigerdew
So this is just another lighting solution that uses Zwave but has a secondary layer that works over the powerline ? Personally I'm not a fan of Zwave for lighting but I would be interested in hearing feedback on this one.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:32 pm to CAD703X
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you better like the insteon world because you're stuck in it.
CAD, I'm aware of your love affair with Wink. If I went with the wink hub what would be the best switch to pair it with? What kind of range are we talking?
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:37 pm to Tigerdew
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CAD, I'm aware of your love affair with Wink
clearly you haven't kept up with my responses in that thread.
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If I went with the wink hub what would be the best switch to pair it with?
any. thats the beauty. for research purposes i paired lutron, leviton, ge & intermatic switches and they all work just fine. lutron looks the best and has never EVER given me a single hiccup but its a proprietary radio which won't MESH if you're looking to extend the range of your network.
i reviewed switches somewhere in that massive wink thread but after a year, honestly they are all about the same. ge has a blue led, leviton has a green one and 'toggle' button (you hit the same place to turn it on and off) and lutron looks more professional.
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What kind of range are we talking?
i put a zwave switch a good 80-100ft from my house (pool pump timer) and it has yet to miss an on/off scheduled event from the hub.
zwave+ is now out, which extends the range even more..for your purposes i'd seriously look at a zwave+ switch if you don't have a place for intermediate hops.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:39 pm to TigerWise
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Personally I'm not a fan of Zwave for lighting but I would be interested in hearing feedback on this one.
why? the light goes on, the light goes off, the light dims. what's the issue?
esp. with zwave+ out now the signal range is insane.
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Without any obstacles such as walls and furniture, the range between two Z-Wave products is about 120 feet or 40 meters. When obstacles in your home reduce that range, Z-Wave’s mesh networking allows a Z-Wave signal to “hop” through other Z-Wave products to reach the destination device to be controlled. However, Z-Wave is a mesh network that allows the signal to be relayed via other Z-Wave devices. Z-Wave supports up to 4 hops so the total home coverage will grow depending on the amount of Z-Wave products in the network . The maximum range with 4 hops is roughly 600 feet or 200 meters.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:27 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:36 pm to Tigerdew
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So CAD, you're suggestion would be the Wink Hub and a switch like this?
i think the wink hub would be perfectly functional in this case and pretty inexpensive as far as multi-purpose hubs go.
as for the switch, i've done some research on the domitech/dragon tech/homeseer switch. all use the same product but homeseer runs a custom firmware which you dont need (allows double-tap & shite on the switch itself) so i would buy that switch in a heartbeat. i think it will be rock solid.
eta here's the comment right from the horse's mouth (homeseer rep)
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There are many manufacturing partnerships in this industry. indeed, the original GE switches were manufactured by ACT (as were the Evolve and Linear Z-Wave switches). HomeSeer is no different. We partner with a number of other companies to produce many of the products we now offer. What sets these switches apart from all others is the combination of features embedded into the firmware.
Here is the device view of 1 HS-WD100+ dimmer: When the switch paddle is pressed, double-tapped, triple-tapped, the "central scene" device changes status. This can then be used to trigger an event in a HomeSeer system. This cannot be done with any other switch currently on the market.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 3:02 pm to CAD703X
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why? the light goes on, the light goes off, the light dims. what's the issue?
When you build scenes, especially whole house applications, all the lights don't turn on or off at the same time. There can be a small delay depending on the network. So the lights will come on/off like a line of dominos falling.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:36 pm to TigerWise
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When you build scenes, especially whole house applications, all the lights don't turn on or off at the same time. There can be a small delay depending on the network. So the lights will come on/off like a line of dominos falling.
i'm not saying you're wrong, but i have so many lights on different switches now..my floods all fade to black when they go off, other lights just go off immediately, etc.
i honestly and truly can say its never crossed my mind to be annoyed by the lights going off or concerned they are not going off at the same exact split second.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:57 pm to CAD703X
It might not bother you but it happens. An end user spending good money on a control system in a high end home it can be an issue. I know you have trouble with the concept of people liking different products or having different needs than you.
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