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Anyone have a Region 2 blu ray player?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:25 am
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:25 am
As some may know, for whatever reason, movies are considerably cheaper on AmazonUK. With the drop of the Euro it's making purchasing movies overseas that much more enticing. I see they had some players in the $50-$80 range depending on if I want to get 3D or not. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience using a Region 2 player. Are there any differences besides the outlet that I need to be concerned about?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:11 pm to Mikes My Tiger
Shipping doesn't offset the cost?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:20 pm to Mikes My Tiger
Are the plugs the same?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:43 pm to Mikes My Tiger
PAL VS NTSC
The Region 2 player needs to be able to output NTSC or you will not be able to view the movie.
The Region 2 player needs to be able to output NTSC or you will not be able to view the movie.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:50 pm to Mikes My Tiger
Buy one from AmazonUK..?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:54 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
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PAL VS NTSC
I thought HDMI cables were universal and ended this issue. Any BluRay would be HDMI, so shouldn't be an issue.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:05 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
Since posting this I've researched a little more and apparently they also have region free players on Amazon for a little over $100 with 3D and everything. I see there are some negative reviews, but mostly about the streaming apps. I only plan to use it for blu ray so none of that other stuff matters. I'll probably wait until I get off to look into it more before I pull the trigger on anything.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 4:44 pm to MamouTiger65
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I thought HDMI cables were universal and ended this issue. Any BluRay would be HDMI, so shouldn't be an issue.
Why NTSC and PAL Still Matter With HDTV
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A lot consumers around the World assume that, with the introduction of Digital TV and HDTV, the old barriers to a universal video standard have been removed. However, this is an incorrect assumption.
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In the final analysis, Digital TV and HDTV, although a leap forward in terms of what you actually see on the screen, with increased resolution and detail, still has roots in 60-plus year-old analog video standards. As a result, there are, and will be, for the foreseeable future, differences in Digital TV and HDTV standards in use throughout the World, which reinforces the barrier to true Worldwide video standards for both the professional and the consumer.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:22 pm to MamouTiger65
MamouTiger65, you are on to something!
Blu-ray Disc
This last quote seems to be the limiting factor.
Blu-ray Disc
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Region codes: content providers need not use region playback codes
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Some current estimates suggest 70% of available [movie] Blu-ray Discs from the major studios are region-code-free and can therefore be played on any Blu-ray Disc player, in any region
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Movie studios have different region coding policies. Among major U.S. studios, Warner Bros., Paramount Pictures, Universal Studios, Sony Pictures, and Walt Disney Pictures have released most of their titles region-free.[156][157][158][159][160][161] MGM and Lions Gate Entertainment have released a mix of region-free and region-coded titles.[162][163] 20th Century Fox has released most of their titles region-coded.
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Unlike DVD region codes, Blu-ray region codes are verified only by the player software, not by the optical drive's firmware.
This last quote seems to be the limiting factor.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:56 pm to Mikes My Tiger
Look up to Regional 2 model equivalent of your cheap player. Go online. Download the latest firmware. Maybe it works. If not, throw away the cheap pile of junk!
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:32 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
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The Region 2 player needs to be able to output NTSC or you will not be able to view the movie.
Incorrect. If he is buying Region 2 DVDs, the video files on the DVDs will be encoded as PAL so the Region 2 player will be outputting a PAL video signal. What he needs is a television that can accept PAL video.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:31 pm to efrad
Tmvel All Region Free DVD 3D/2D Blu-ray Player
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Region Code Free 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 PAL NTSC, built in 3 way converter PAL to NTSC and NTSC to PAL you can connect to any TV
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Supports PAL & NTSC System - Built-in PAL to NTSC converter allows you to watch PAL or NTSC DVDs on ANY TV
Posted on 3/18/15 at 12:15 am to ATL-TIGER-732
1. Well, that one has a built-in PAL to NTSC converter, so that's a different story.
2. In order to display PAL video on an NTSC set, the Blu-ray player is actively converting framerates during playback. Not only does this result in quality reduction but the PAL audio and video were already sped up by 4% during the production of the PAL DVD OR had an interpolated dummy frame added each second because film is recorded at 24fps and PAL is 25fps. This introduces judder to the playback. Granted, converting from film's 24fps to NTSC's ~30fps requires 3:2 pulldown which also introduces telecine judder, but in this situation you're converting 24fps -> 25fps -> 30fps which is not going to look good IMO. It is so much better to use a PAL DVD on a PAL-native TV set or an NTSC DVD on an NTSC-native TV set so that additional framerate conversion does not take place.
3. The Blu-ray Disc Association requires that all properly licensed Blu-ray players enforce region restrictions if they are present on the BD-ROM. I am not familiar with the status of these region-free players, but I suspect that since they are not officially licensed, they won't have the best support for firmware updates which are necessary for new Blu-ray releases. I wouldn't trust using that.
2. In order to display PAL video on an NTSC set, the Blu-ray player is actively converting framerates during playback. Not only does this result in quality reduction but the PAL audio and video were already sped up by 4% during the production of the PAL DVD OR had an interpolated dummy frame added each second because film is recorded at 24fps and PAL is 25fps. This introduces judder to the playback. Granted, converting from film's 24fps to NTSC's ~30fps requires 3:2 pulldown which also introduces telecine judder, but in this situation you're converting 24fps -> 25fps -> 30fps which is not going to look good IMO. It is so much better to use a PAL DVD on a PAL-native TV set or an NTSC DVD on an NTSC-native TV set so that additional framerate conversion does not take place.
3. The Blu-ray Disc Association requires that all properly licensed Blu-ray players enforce region restrictions if they are present on the BD-ROM. I am not familiar with the status of these region-free players, but I suspect that since they are not officially licensed, they won't have the best support for firmware updates which are necessary for new Blu-ray releases. I wouldn't trust using that.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:04 pm to efrad
You probably know this, but just as an FYI, I have purchased many blu-ray disks from AmazonUK and they have all been region-free and worked fine in my player. I am sure there are exceptions, but a lot of these will work with your player without having to do anything additional.
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