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re: Why isn't more soccer on television?
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Didnt the MLS just redo it tv deal
Not finalized yet. A new deal will come into effect this offseason.
I have DirecTV, don't pay the extra for beIN sport though. Wish I did, but I can watch all the games on beIN online and so I can still get by without it.
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:23 pm to svb
I got Direct TV just to get BeIn when it started. It's in their sports package in my area but all TV is really a rip off considering the few things most really care about seeing.
Still, as a Roma fan, it's hard to complain about BeIN as they'll show 35 of Roma's 38 fixtures this year as well as all the Coppa Italia matches. Fox had much less coverage as well as horrible commentators for all but the biggest match of the week.
Still, as a Roma fan, it's hard to complain about BeIN as they'll show 35 of Roma's 38 fixtures this year as well as all the Coppa Italia matches. Fox had much less coverage as well as horrible commentators for all but the biggest match of the week.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:47 pm to wm72
Yeah, I'm not always satisfied with beIN's commentary, but at the end of the day, they can at least say that they've tried. They try to put as much soccer on television as possible with people talking about it who at least kind of know what they're doing. FSC couldn't say that, and GolTV certainly can't say that.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:42 pm to joey barton
I'm amazed that Gol TV is still around. With them losing Bundesliga what will they show now, just games from South America?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:05 am to joey barton
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Yeah, I'm not always satisfied with beIN's commentary, but at the end of the day, they can at least say that they've tried.
Interesting, I am generally a fan of their commentators.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:19 am to svb
You can get BeIn on the interwebs. Dishworld for $10 a month. In HD. And ten other bullshite channels
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:28 am to tduecen
NBC has really changed things, at least for BPL. Before I would either need to purchase fox soccer, fox soccer plus and fix soccer 2 go. And even after that, catch reruns on yess or find a stream. I haven't had to do any of that with NBC.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 7:45 am to pvine187
BeIn is a world wide sports channel too. Shits in like 8 different languages.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 8:32 am to StraightCashHomey21
In regards to the OP... My gf thinks there is TOO much soccer on TV and hates that it is basically year around with, WC, euros, copa, int'l friendlies, etc..
Posted on 4/6/14 at 10:31 am to tduecen
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Seems when you are up at 6am or later they could be showing live soccer over seas but instead ESPN and other programs shows replays of shows you don't care about. I would personally love to view more live soccer options on my television without having to pay for it.
It's tough to make advertising money when there's no commercial breaks.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:08 pm to svb
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Interesting, I am generally a fan of their commentators.
I have a number of complaints that are more nitpicky than anything, because their commentators are usually well prepared to do their jobs:
1. Phil Schoen annoys me and is hilariously biased towards Barcelona, which I assume is why the Phil Schoen-Ray Hudson tandem is almost always assigned to Barcelona games. Objectively, I guess he does his job well. Normally, I might think that my dislike of Barcelona clouds my judgment, but Ray Hudson has to pull him back to Earth sometimes. Hilariously over-the-top Ray Hudson has to play the voice of reason.
2. They don't really break up their commentary tandems, so I have to listen to Phil Schoen if I want to listen to Ray Hudson. This is both a positive and a negative.
3. Bodo Illgner can be hypercritical of Real Madrid. I don't know if he's just your average, hypercritical Real Madrid fan or if he over-corrects because he's a former Real Madrid player, but it can get on my nerves.
4. There is some guy who over-enunciates every Spanish name. It bothered me for a while because I thought that he was British. Eventually, I realized that he was a native Spanish speaker. This no longer bothers me.
5. They watch the same feed as the viewer and can end up just as confused as the viewer confusing the viewer when the viewer might not have been confused. This is especially annoying when they only have one commentator assigned to a game, which is understandable because they offer commentary in two languages for virtually every game, and it takes them five minutes to figure out what's going on.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 1:16 pm to tduecen
There are usually 4-5 Liga MX matches and at least 1 MLS match on free over the air Spanish language TV every weekend. The new El Rey network even simulcasts a few of these in English now.
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Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:25 pm to joey barton
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I have a number of complaints that are more nitpicky than anything, because their commentators are usually well prepared to do their jobs:
I tend to agree with every on of these complaints with the exception of Phil really being "well prepared"
Unlike a lot of people I actually like Phil Shoen as far as personality but he really just talks out of his arse so much it's ridiculous. Often they're just are pretty questionable opinions but also he gets fairly simple facts totally wrong multiple times a match.
A perfect example is this morning's Cagliari - Roma match where Destro got a hat trick. Phil went on and on for half the match about Destro's "slow start" to the season "where he wasn't clinical enough" that's what is keeping him off pace for the league lead in goals.
Destro was out with an injury until Xmas (half of those matches Schoen himself called) and probably has the best goal per minute ratio on any striker in Europe. That's just one example but every single match he presents as straight fact 4-5 things that are just plain wrong and that it's baffling how he doesn't know or recall.
I will say that it's kind of funny when Ray frustrating corrects him beginning about 20 sentences a match: "I don't know about that Phil".
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Bodo Illgner can be hypercritical of Real Madrid. I don't know if he's just your average, hypercritical Real Madrid fan or if he over-corrects because he's a former Real Madrid player, but it can get on my nerves.
I tend to forgive Bodo since he says so much unintentionally funny stuff every match but he is pretty critical of Real. I think he's just a huge Real fan that's hypercritical as that's how he come off on the Locker Room as well.
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5. They watch the same feed as the viewer and can end up just as confused as the viewer or confusing the viewer when the viewer might not have been confused.
This can be pretty bad. Fox was much worse though about the single match commentators who were so uncomfortable that you suffered for them until lowering the volume.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 4:01 pm to wm72
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Unlike a lot of people I actually like Phil Shoen as far as personality but he really just talks out of his arse so much it's ridiculous. Often they're just are pretty questionable opinions but also he gets fairly simple facts totally wrong multiple times a match.
A perfect example is this morning's Cagliari - Roma match where Destro got a hat trick. Phil went on and on for half the match about Destro's "slow start" to the season "where he wasn't clinical enough" that's what is keeping him off pace for the league lead in goals.
I think that part of my experience is due to whom I hear him call. I don't watch Serie A all that often, so I usually only get to hear him call Barcelona. His analysis is usually factual there, mostly because he has a serious hard-on for Barcelona, though his opinions are usually terrible. Honestly, with this Gus Johnson experiment, my bar is set pretty low. "Well prepared" for me right now is doing at least some research, and that brings me to something else I hate about him, actually. I feel like he always has some stupid, banal fact that he has to force into the broadcast.
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I tend to forgive Bodo since he says so much unintentionally funny stuff
Yeah, overall, I like him. It's just grating at times. Though, I usually can't hear crowd noises at the Bernabeu, outside of the 90 minutes of Jose Mourinho chants and counter-whistling on the final game of last season, so I guess that he's a replacement for the frequent booing that goes on.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 5:01 pm to joey barton
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Honestly, with this Gus Johnson experiment, my bar is set pretty low.
I hate Gus so much. I have only been following since the last World Cup, and I am absolutely confident I can do a better job than he does.
Gus does not even cater to the new viewers who have no experience because he is just as clueless as them. Gus will probably ask why the offside rule exists as well as why don't they make the goals bigger so you can score more goals?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 5:03 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
yeah i used to really like Gus but holy shite he is bad at calling soccer
Posted on 4/6/14 at 5:09 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
We should start one of those White House petitions to get Gus off of soccer.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 5:25 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Baby steps. He can start with doing enough research to learn how to pronounce players' names remotely correctly. I don't even need proper pronunciation. Just pronounce that shite phonetically. He can't even manage to do that right now.
It's such a lazy, cheap gimmick by FOX. They know that they aren't really risking alienating "hardcore" fans when they stick him on high profile games, and I'm assuming that they want to appeal to people who just like to hear Gus Johnson speak/people who watch a lot of sports but don't watch soccer regularly who will tune in to high profile games. They can appear to give a shite about their soccer coverage while utilizing someone they already employ.
It's such a lazy, cheap gimmick by FOX. They know that they aren't really risking alienating "hardcore" fans when they stick him on high profile games, and I'm assuming that they want to appeal to people who just like to hear Gus Johnson speak/people who watch a lot of sports but don't watch soccer regularly who will tune in to high profile games. They can appear to give a shite about their soccer coverage while utilizing someone they already employ.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 5:54 pm to joey barton
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It's such a lazy, cheap gimmick by FOX.
Exactly. He's so bad it's not only distracting but almost unbearable. And now that he's learning more "English" terms to uneasily throw in like "getting joy" it's exponentially worse.
I wish FOX had zero matches I cared to watch.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 6:33 pm to wm72
It's pretty appalling that a network that large that ran a soccer specific channel for almost two decades has lower quality dedicated, i.e., not SKY, soccer specific announcers/analysts than ESPN, NBC, and probably beIN.
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