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The most depressing fact after last night? We still have 3 more years of Jurgen
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:50 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:50 am
Thank you Sunil Gulati. LINK
Here are some stats from the last 7 WC appearances for the US.
Worse numbers than we were putting up in 1990
I'm borrowing a comment from the article:
Here are some stats from the last 7 WC appearances for the US.
Worse numbers than we were putting up in 1990
I'm borrowing a comment from the article:
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After a year of experimentation, we fell back to the WC line-up (now older and with less chemistry) when the chips were down. The entire year of mad science produced virtually nothing in terms of tangible progress; either establishing a style of play or phasing out vets in favor of young guns. So, essentially, 1/4 of the 2018 cycle was flushed down the drain.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:59 am to cwil177
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It's no wonder you've supplanted TNBhoy as the worst poster on this board.
not possible
Jurgy won't be fired bc they still want him to take over the youth development after he is done. If he leaves before his contract is up, its bc he steps down or something crazy happens.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:43 am to cwil177
Jurgen Klinsmann must be a big fan of Jose Mourinho's methods.
1. The game is won by the team who commit fewer errors.
2. Football favors whoever provokes more errors in the opposition.
3. Away from home, instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, it’s better to encourage their mistakes.
4. Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.
5. Whoever renounces possession reduces the possibility of making a mistake.
6. Whoever has the ball has fear.
7. Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.
1. The game is won by the team who commit fewer errors.
2. Football favors whoever provokes more errors in the opposition.
3. Away from home, instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, it’s better to encourage their mistakes.
4. Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.
5. Whoever renounces possession reduces the possibility of making a mistake.
6. Whoever has the ball has fear.
7. Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:49 am to Bench McElroy
Except Jose's team understands positioning and spacing. Our spacing is a mess.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:51 am to crazy4lsu
I think Jürgen is attempting to do something similar to what Bayern does by overloading the hell out of one side, the problem is that I don't think he knows how to get the message across so it ends up with us just neglecting usually the left side of midfield with a center mid pretending to play out there but spending 90% of the match tucked in. It creates havoc more for our players than the opposing team.
It's honestly the only thing I can deduce from what he's been doing.
It's honestly the only thing I can deduce from what he's been doing.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:40 am to Bench McElroy
Jose Mourinho's teams have won something.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:54 am to hendersonshands
Maybe, but the problem is that we are always overloaded in key zones. Especially in the first half, Beckerman was consistently overloaded in zone 14. He constantly had to choose whether to close down or back off, nor did he know who to mark. That's an impossible situation for any player.
And what confuses me is why he didn't play Dempsey at left mid if the goal was to use the left mid as an auxiliary central player. Dempsey played that role perfectly for Fulham, and there is no reason he can't play it now. It'd allow him to run into the box late, unmarked. It would also allow someone to put a runner next to Altidore, who constantly checks back to the ball. And we'd get slightly more defensive work because Dempsey would actually be wide rather than central. The net effect would be the same defensively.
And about the overloading part of our offensive game overloading requires width, something we don't play with, as well as interplay on one side to create space on the other. The only time it's really worked was Mix's goal against Germany, otherwise, it's a failed strategy. It'd be much better to just throw numbers forward at the counter attack.
I honestly think that Klinsmann doesn't know what he's doing. He tinkers but his tactical nous is nonexistent. He doesn't speak about the game the same way as other managers. It's all very general and nonspecific.
And what confuses me is why he didn't play Dempsey at left mid if the goal was to use the left mid as an auxiliary central player. Dempsey played that role perfectly for Fulham, and there is no reason he can't play it now. It'd allow him to run into the box late, unmarked. It would also allow someone to put a runner next to Altidore, who constantly checks back to the ball. And we'd get slightly more defensive work because Dempsey would actually be wide rather than central. The net effect would be the same defensively.
And about the overloading part of our offensive game overloading requires width, something we don't play with, as well as interplay on one side to create space on the other. The only time it's really worked was Mix's goal against Germany, otherwise, it's a failed strategy. It'd be much better to just throw numbers forward at the counter attack.
I honestly think that Klinsmann doesn't know what he's doing. He tinkers but his tactical nous is nonexistent. He doesn't speak about the game the same way as other managers. It's all very general and nonspecific.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:36 pm to crazy4lsu
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And what confuses me is why he didn't play Dempsey at left mid if the goal was to use the left mid as an auxiliary central player. Dempsey played that role perfectly for Fulham, and there is no reason he can't play it now. It'd allow him to run into the box late, unmarked. It would also allow someone to put a runner next to Altidore, who constantly checks back to the ball. And we'd get slightly more defensive work because Dempsey would actually be wide rather than central. The net effect would be the same defensively.
I love this idea. I was sad when we stopped using Clint out wide. He is better there in a 4-2-3-1 but the formation we ran last night I'm not sure if it would have worked with him there. We would have ended up having a wonky 4-3-3 instead of a 4-4-2.
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I honestly think that Klinsmann doesn't know what he's doing.
You think?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:44 pm to cwil177
Well you would think he would have some idea of what he was doing. For the love of god, he's spent 1 whole fricking year of a cycle tinkering, and all for what? To return to a team that you played in the WC, but who hadn't played together in quite a while? What the frick was the point of the tinkering?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:49 pm to crazy4lsu
Well said and we're obviously worse off for it.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:11 pm to StraightCashHomey21
He is absolutely worse than TN Bhoy. I would rather have to watch every Celtic game for the next 10 years with TN Bhoy than have eastnastyfag continue to post on here.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:14 pm to crazy4lsu
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What the frick was the point of the tinkering?
Could see this coming from a mile away. We tinkered with no real purpose.
I think you're right in your assessment of him being a tactical retard but he has guys around him who aren't so it all just blows me away.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:50 pm to hendersonshands
My biggest problem hasn't necessarily been experimenting. I get that. You can't just play the same guys over and over over a 5-year period. You need to see what you've got in other players. I'm cool with that.
My problem is that his idea of tinkering is just throwing shite at the wall and seeing what sticks. It's like he just throws darts at a board when making a lineup.
Get a solid core of players. Make 2 or 3 changes a game at most. Maybe try a guy as a sub. Don't be so drastic though. The problem is we don't have that strong, consistent core. That fricks up the whole experiment. You HAVE TO have some consistency.
Then after all that shite, we end up relying on basically the WC XI to win a playoff game we shouldn't have been in.
My problem is that his idea of tinkering is just throwing shite at the wall and seeing what sticks. It's like he just throws darts at a board when making a lineup.
Get a solid core of players. Make 2 or 3 changes a game at most. Maybe try a guy as a sub. Don't be so drastic though. The problem is we don't have that strong, consistent core. That fricks up the whole experiment. You HAVE TO have some consistency.
Then after all that shite, we end up relying on basically the WC XI to win a playoff game we shouldn't have been in.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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he's spent 1 whole fricking year of a cycle tinkering, and all for what? To return to a team that you played in the WC, but who hadn't played together in quite a while? What the frick was the point of the tinkering?
"experimentation"
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:38 pm to cwil177
His experimentation for the most part is fricking stupid. Jermaine Jones at CB? Why? Bradley still isn't a 10 and never will be and we have wasted a year finding one. Cameron and Besler played well for the most part last summer and its not like they're too old to continue. Have them as your core and work in Yedlin at RB to establish him there and find a new LB. Work in Brooks at CB from time to time to grow. Danny Williams should be getting more looks at CDM since he's been playing pretty damn well for Reading for over a year now yet we wasted a year getting him ready by playing fricking Mix and Morales and the like back there. Nothing against Morales as a CDM but I think it's pretty clear Williams is at a higher level than him.
The one position where we are super thin is on the wings. With what I said before you can have Fabian at LW and establish him there. This gives you time to experiment on the RW and find someone. Yet we haven't. More opportunities wasted.
The one position where we are super thin is on the wings. With what I said before you can have Fabian at LW and establish him there. This gives you time to experiment on the RW and find someone. Yet we haven't. More opportunities wasted.
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