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re: NYT Exclusive: Top FIFA officials (but not Blatter) indicted, face extradition to U.S.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:19 am to PTBob
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:19 am to PTBob
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dan patrick says this is the single greatest moment for soccer in the USA.
It's very likely the biggest news ever with the words "USA" and "Soccer" in them, at least IMO.
These bastards have been doing this for years and it took a country who didn't really give a frick about soccer until recently to finally drop the hammer while everyone else waited.
I personally think this could cause a domino effect of some proportion within FIFA itself, whether it's with the Qatar/Russia WC's, Blatter being in charge or the reclassification of FIFA from non-profit. No idea how far it will go, but I definitely think this was "the shot heard around the world".
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:20 am to hendersonshands
I'm late to the party but damn I'm in a good mood now
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:21 am to drockw1
i have a ton of work to do, but heep checking FB and twitter and here
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:25 am to McCaigBro69
At the very least I would think it makes FIFA feel a little more uncomfortable and less invincible.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:25 am to DestrehanTiger
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Let's say this leads to Blatter's downfall, would everything really change that much for the US? We would all enjoy it, but what else would really happen?
The narrative that the US took down a global corruption ring focused around a sport that we don't really care about will become very widespread and popular.
As for the future of soccer in the US, it's hard to say what impact Blatter's downfall would have. Obviously, if a re-vote for 2022 were to happen, the US would be the top candidate. Hosting a WC would have a huge impact on the standing of the sport - it is more popular now than it was in 1994.
Right now, a majority of Americans don't really know or care what the makeup or influence of FIFA is. This will certainly spur interest in the sport, which may have an effect on American kids playing soccer growing up. I don't see it having any impact on US Soccer as of now.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 10:27 am
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:32 am to Bluefin
Can someone catch me up with the bullet points? My understanding is the FBI and Swiss authorities are each working on separate cases. The FBI is CONCACAF centric and the Swiss deal is Qatar related.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:48 am to Stewie Griffin
From reddit about the DOJ press conference:
Press Conference is done here are the key points:
$110 million in bribes related to the 2016 Copa America.
U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch has announced $150 million of bribes received has already been forfeited by those charged.
2010 World Cup in South Africa was awarded after bribes.
2011 AFC member bribed people in FIFA presidential election.
U.S. Apparel company (believed to be Nike) took part in bribes for marketing rights and to make sure they would hold on to those rights.
U.S. Government is seeking forfeiture of "all properties" gained from these schemes. IRS already identified $151 million. Calls it the "World Cup of Fraud"
Asked about Sepp: Loretta Lynch refused to comment on Sepp Blatter's status since he was not named here today.
No comment on Swiss investigation directly focusing on the World Cup but says they have worked together in the past and will continue to work with them going forward in relation to the 2018/2022 World Cup.
No comment on whether or not their investigation covers how the U.S. bid was affected for the World Cup.
The investigation is not currently related to the 2014 World Cup.
FBI is trying to apprehend the remaining defendants not already in custody or being extradited.
Press Conference is done here are the key points:
$110 million in bribes related to the 2016 Copa America.
U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch has announced $150 million of bribes received has already been forfeited by those charged.
2010 World Cup in South Africa was awarded after bribes.
2011 AFC member bribed people in FIFA presidential election.
U.S. Apparel company (believed to be Nike) took part in bribes for marketing rights and to make sure they would hold on to those rights.
U.S. Government is seeking forfeiture of "all properties" gained from these schemes. IRS already identified $151 million. Calls it the "World Cup of Fraud"
Asked about Sepp: Loretta Lynch refused to comment on Sepp Blatter's status since he was not named here today.
No comment on Swiss investigation directly focusing on the World Cup but says they have worked together in the past and will continue to work with them going forward in relation to the 2018/2022 World Cup.
No comment on whether or not their investigation covers how the U.S. bid was affected for the World Cup.
The investigation is not currently related to the 2014 World Cup.
FBI is trying to apprehend the remaining defendants not already in custody or being extradited.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:49 am to TN Bhoy
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Nine FIFA Officials and Five Corporate Executives Indicted for Racketeering Conspiracy and Corruption
so... RICO
basically calling them the mob (since the RICO statute was put in place to take down the mob)
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:51 am to cwil177
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2010 World Cup in South Africa was awarded after bribes.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:51 am to Stewie Griffin
Racketeering
Wire fraud
Money laundering
Tax evasion
Wire fraud
Money laundering
Tax evasion
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:55 am to cwil177
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U.S. Apparel company (believed to be Nike) took part in bribes for marketing rights and to make sure they would hold on to those rights.
WOAH
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:55 am to Oizers
So Nike may have to pay someone the equivalent they pay Michael Jordan.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:55 am to Stewie Griffin
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U.S. Apparel company (believed to be Nike) took part in bribes for marketing rights and to make sure they would hold on to those rights.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:56 am to cwil177
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U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch has announced $150 million of bribes received has already been forfeited by those charged.
dayum...and that's just the tip of the iceberg from the sound of it. We all knew there was corruption, but this is on a level I wouldn't have imagined.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 10:57 am
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:57 am to cwil177
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U.S. Apparel company (believed to be Nike) took part in bribes for marketing rights and to make sure they would hold on to those rights.
I don't get this part.....each federation has their own sponsors. It's not like Nike has a deal where they outfit all the teams.
I bet it was Starter or FUBU.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:58 am to McCaigBro69
Stealing more from Reddit:
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This is more than just a wild stab, this is the real deal. Federal criminal indictments have an astonishingly high conviction rate in this country, like over 80 93 percent. Because so much more is required of federal prosecutors. You can't just convince a federal judge that there is probable cause, like in state court. You have to win over a federal grand jury to get the indictment. Especially with corruption, conspiracy, racketeering, wire fraud-type cases, a federal prosecutor is not going to move forward on something this high profile without airtight evidence and testimony. There's probably reams and gigabytes of rock solid financial records and emails, I bet. The fact the Swiss are swiftly assisting with arrests and extradition seals it, for me.
There's also no parole in federal prison. And there are sentence enhancements to the moon for these kinds of white-collar crimes under federal sentencing guidelines.
TLDR - Blatter's boys are srsly fricked. Srsly.
[edit] frick Jack Warner. Srsly, frick that guy.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:59 am to Stewie Griffin
There is an edit in there. The conviction rate is 93%.
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