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re: Noob question about the group we are in
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:19 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:19 am to CocomoLSU
Yes a win over Portugal or two draws would seal our place in the top two. However a loss to Portugal and a win against Germany technically wouldn't, bc in that scenario us, Germany, and Portugal could all have six points. That almost never happens but it's possible
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:19 am to CocomoLSU
i find it silly that head to head is the 3rd tie breaker.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:20 am to bbap
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This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:21 am to bbap
the tie issue fricks up H2H
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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the tie issue fricks up H2H
how does it frick it up?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:23 am to bbap
I think they try and make it more about all 3 games than the one against the most comparable. I understand it but I also understand where you are coming from.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:30 am to SouthOfSouth
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If we beat Portugal we will have 6 points and will be a lock for either 1st or 2nd in the group; both advance.
unless Ghana wins their next 2 & we lose to Germany. highly unlikely, but still not a lock
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:30 am to bbap
a tie doesn't really help you with H2H
also soccer, traditionally, looks at the big picture. that's why points, goal differential, goals, etc matter more than 1 game
also soccer, traditionally, looks at the big picture. that's why points, goal differential, goals, etc matter more than 1 game
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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a tie doesn't really help you with H2H
well neither does goal differential if that is a tie. that's sort of the point of having multiple tiebreakers. not sure im following your point honestly.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:44 am to bbap
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well neither does goal differential if that is a tie. t
goal differential is a much better indicator of how you played over the 3 games than a single game's result
and H2H is worthless when a common soccer result occurs (the tie)
so H2H is just a lot less valuable and is further down the list
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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goal differential is a much better indicator of how you played over the 3 games than a single game's result
in your opinion. i disagree.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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and H2H is worthless when a common soccer result occurs (the tie)
so H2H is just a lot less valuable and is further down the list
Just because a tie is common doesn't make the metric worthless. A lot of first tie breakers are commonly ineffective. It should be what FIFA thinks is the best metric to pick the better team to advance.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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i forgot about drawing lots
in 2006 or 2010 (i forget), there was a real threat of drawing lots to see who advanced outof one group
What does that mean? That they pick someone from a hat basically?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:42 am to CocomoLSU
Yeah, it is terrible. Hopefully never happens again.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:43 am to CocomoLSU
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That they pick someone from a hat basically?
Yep. Coin flip, normally.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:44 am to TN Bhoy
Yikes. Is it done in public, or does FIFA do it themselves and then announce the result? Because I could see FIFA fricking that up or being shady as frick with something like that. 
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:11 pm to TN Bhoy
How many times has this coin flip been done? My dad has been me asking that question for days.
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