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re: Michael Bradley's performance versus Germany compared to France's midfielders
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:23 pm to cwil177
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:23 pm to cwil177
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But Hendo didn't you hear everyone commenting during and after our games about Bradley's performance? He's the worst player on our team and should never wear a national team jersey again trolololololol
Does it feel good to take down those straw men?
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:27 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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4 games and you are all knowing about Michael Bradley.
eyeball test son
You watch the highlights of CJ2K in 2009, you see something different that what you see in 2013.
I am calling it as how I see him now. MB's 26, prime of his career...and the Euro's shipped his crap arse down to the MLS
it's like the NFL sending a player to the CFL, or MLB sending someone down to the minors.
I said it before...we had euro players on our bench with this minor-league has-been arse-hat fricking everything up for team USA.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:30 pm to Iona Fan Man
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and the Euro's shipped his crap arse down to the MLS
Again you show your ignorance of the game. Bradley chose to leave on his own accord. This isn't fricking NFL or NBA where the players have no say in the matter. Roma didn't "ship" him anywhere. He also had offers from other European clubs, but again, chose MLS.
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we had euro players on our bench
Yea, man. The Norwegian league is fricking awesome.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:30 pm to Iona Fan Man
I watched the first half of the Belgium game again. I tried to document all of Bradley's contributions:
4:10 - Plays a poor through ball behind Dempsey when 3 people are on him instead of seeing the players wide open to his left and right. Ball is intercepted by a defender.
6:42 - Plays a good ball inside to Jones but Jones loses it
14:06 - Heads the ball back to left back
16:15: Makes an uncontested short pass right to other team.
17:07: Tries to play the ball across to the left side of the 18 and is intercepted by defender.
18:51: passes the ball back to our defense
20:12: Dempsey plays a perfect back flick / heel to Bradley to give him a chance to score. Bradley's first touch is off and the defenders poke the ball away before he can shoot. It actually goes right to Dempsey who almost scores. If Bradley makes a decent first touch on this, he has a 1v1 with the goalie.
21:20: Bradley forces a turnover by pressuring Fellaini who kicks it out of bounds
25:52: Bradley pressures Fellaini and forces him to play it back
27:37: Bradley chases a player back to our goal line, only to let up and let another player run right past him who may have been a threat, had the ball not gone out fortunately.
28:44: Bradley plays the ball up to midfield to Zusi who then plays a decent throughball to Johnson, who can't get to it (hamstring)
31:58: Bradley plays ball back to our defense
32:23: Bradley stands in the middle of the 18 while Yedlin is trapped by two defenders in the corner. Ball is kicked out for a corner.
33:45: Bradley plays good ball up to dempsey who flicks it to Zusi, who loses the ball because he is worthless that day.
35:00: Bradley makes a great run and Dempsey gets him the ball on the left side. Bradley plays a good ball to Jones at the 6 but Jones can't get to it and it's headed away.
35:23: Bradley plays some poor defense and slide tackles a player from behind (no ball). Advantage is given and Bradley somehow doesn't get a yellow. Belgium almost scores.
37:50: Bradley plays a good ball up to Yedlin who crosses it in to Dempsey who almost scores.
40:30: Bradley plays another great ball to Yedlin up the right side.who passes it to Zusi who has a decent chance to score. Zusi shanks the ball off his foot because he sucks.
40:42: Bradley gets the ball back. Could have taken a touch forward to shoot, but holds the ball and passes to Zusi of all people who of course trips over the ball and causes a turnover.
45:44 - Bradley plays ball up to Yedlin and is intercepted by defender.
Will do the second half later.
4:10 - Plays a poor through ball behind Dempsey when 3 people are on him instead of seeing the players wide open to his left and right. Ball is intercepted by a defender.
6:42 - Plays a good ball inside to Jones but Jones loses it
14:06 - Heads the ball back to left back
16:15: Makes an uncontested short pass right to other team.
17:07: Tries to play the ball across to the left side of the 18 and is intercepted by defender.
18:51: passes the ball back to our defense
20:12: Dempsey plays a perfect back flick / heel to Bradley to give him a chance to score. Bradley's first touch is off and the defenders poke the ball away before he can shoot. It actually goes right to Dempsey who almost scores. If Bradley makes a decent first touch on this, he has a 1v1 with the goalie.
21:20: Bradley forces a turnover by pressuring Fellaini who kicks it out of bounds
25:52: Bradley pressures Fellaini and forces him to play it back
27:37: Bradley chases a player back to our goal line, only to let up and let another player run right past him who may have been a threat, had the ball not gone out fortunately.
28:44: Bradley plays the ball up to midfield to Zusi who then plays a decent throughball to Johnson, who can't get to it (hamstring)
31:58: Bradley plays ball back to our defense
32:23: Bradley stands in the middle of the 18 while Yedlin is trapped by two defenders in the corner. Ball is kicked out for a corner.
33:45: Bradley plays good ball up to dempsey who flicks it to Zusi, who loses the ball because he is worthless that day.
35:00: Bradley makes a great run and Dempsey gets him the ball on the left side. Bradley plays a good ball to Jones at the 6 but Jones can't get to it and it's headed away.
35:23: Bradley plays some poor defense and slide tackles a player from behind (no ball). Advantage is given and Bradley somehow doesn't get a yellow. Belgium almost scores.
37:50: Bradley plays a good ball up to Yedlin who crosses it in to Dempsey who almost scores.
40:30: Bradley plays another great ball to Yedlin up the right side.who passes it to Zusi who has a decent chance to score. Zusi shanks the ball off his foot because he sucks.
40:42: Bradley gets the ball back. Could have taken a touch forward to shoot, but holds the ball and passes to Zusi of all people who of course trips over the ball and causes a turnover.
45:44 - Bradley plays ball up to Yedlin and is intercepted by defender.
Will do the second half later.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:39 pm to Iona Fan Man
Good point about Bradley not producing for the attack. Also, why was Tim Howard always closest to the ball when we got scored against? He must be suck at goalie if the ball is going right by him.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:39 pm to Iona Fan Man
Good point about Bradley not producing for the attack. Also, why was Tim Howard always closest to the ball when we got scored against? He must be suck at goalie if the ball is going right by him.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:40 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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Bradley chose to leave on his own accord.
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Bradley has struggled to break into the starting lineup with Roma this season, appearing in 11 of their 18 league games, with just five of them as a starter. With the Serie A side recently acquiring Belgian midfielder Radja Nainggolan on loan from Cagliari with an option to buy, Bradley was looking at being the fifth option in manager Rudi Garcia's three-man midfield.
so he went to a league where he could start...without having to perform better
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The move almost certainly will not sit well with U.S. national team manager Jurgen Klinsmann, who has long encouraged his players to test themselves at the highest level possible. The MLS, despite its increasing profile, does not provide the same level of play as the top European leagues, and it seems likely that Bradley could have secured a loan move to another European club. Instead, he has opted for the security -- both in terms of playing time and finances -- of the MLS.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:41 pm to Iona Fan Man
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so he went to a league where he could start...without having to perform better
Chievo wanted him back and he would have started (like he did before). He went to Toronto for more money.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:43 pm to SUB
People in here are sure putting in a lot of work to prove Bradley didn't play great in the World Cup. I don't think anyone is arguing that as much as he didn't play as badly as you think. Bradley isn't exactly surrounded by world beaters himself when we played 4 top 20 teams in the world.
Also, you're not listening when we say he's been very good outside of his world cup performance. We didn't all get together and say, "Hey let's try to convince everyone who doesn't watch the U.S. that Bradley is our best player when he is in fact absolute crap."
If you want to see the Michael Bradley we all know and love watch this. It's from his days with Verona when he was Man of the Match against Juventus who won the league that year if my memory serve me correctly.
Also, you're not listening when we say he's been very good outside of his world cup performance. We didn't all get together and say, "Hey let's try to convince everyone who doesn't watch the U.S. that Bradley is our best player when he is in fact absolute crap."
If you want to see the Michael Bradley we all know and love watch this. It's from his days with Verona when he was Man of the Match against Juventus who won the league that year if my memory serve me correctly.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:51 pm to Iona Fan Man
Roma's midfield is loaded. De Rossi is a living legend, Strootman is a stud (who tore his ACL shortly after Bradley left), Pjanic is also a stud - maybe you saw dominate with Croatia, and they just signed Naiggolan. The signing of Nainggolan made Bradley expendable. Roma's midfield is absurd and Bradley had a decent rotational spot on what is likely a top ten team in the world and one of the best midfields.
The best comparison for you is to think of Bradley as Ben Tate and the Roma studs as Arian Foster (before 2013). Now, Tate wants to be the star on a lesser side (Cleveland). It does not mean Tate is bad though.
The best comparison for you is to think of Bradley as Ben Tate and the Roma studs as Arian Foster (before 2013). Now, Tate wants to be the star on a lesser side (Cleveland). It does not mean Tate is bad though.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:53 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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Chievo wanted him back and he would have started
Oh jesus mother mary
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Chievo is a professional Italian football club named after and based in Chievo, a suburb of 4,500 inhabitants in Verona, Veneto, and owned by Paluani, a cake company
they share a 30k cap stadium with another team and their team only draws a paltry avg attendance of 9,149
that's not better competition....frick the MLS doubles their avg at 18,807
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:54 pm to rdw1690
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Bradley isn't exactly surrounded by world beaters himself when we played 4 top 20 teams in the world.
Agree but he also knows that and should play more as a leader instead of a role player, which is all he did in the world cup. That probably had to do with him playing a different position, but let's stop making excuses.
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Also, you're not listening when we say he's been very good outside of his world cup performance. We didn't all get together and say, "Hey let's try to convince everyone who doesn't watch the U.S. that Bradley is our best player when he is in fact absolute crap."
I hear you loud and clear, but his past play doesn't mean anything in the world cup if he doesn't perform well.
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If you want to see the Michael Bradley we all know and love watch this. It's from his days with Verona when he was Man of the Match against Juventus who won the league that year if my memory serve me correctly.
Do not care about what he's done in the past. Once again, his past accomplishments don't make his world cup play good. It's really unfortunate that the U.S. doesn't have a midfielder that can step in for him when he isn't playing well.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:56 pm to Iona Fan Man
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that's not better competition....frick the MLS doubles their avg at 18,807
Serie A is better competition than MLS, no matter what the attendance is.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:58 pm to Iona Fan Man
You said he went to MLS because he couldn't start in Serie A. You were wrong so now you're moving the goal posts.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:01 pm to Iona Fan Man
Yeah you're kind of all over the place now. First Bradley was relegated to the MLS when a team in Serie A still wanted him but that team doesn't have great attendance so screw them too.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:01 pm to crazy4lsu
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Serie A is better competition than MLS, no matter what the attendance is.
so being in the SEC means that Vanderbilt and Kentucky are better than Oregon, Oklahoma and Ohio St?
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:02 pm to Iona Fan Man
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they share a 30k cap stadium with another team and their team only draws a paltry avg attendance of 9,149
that's not better competition....frick the MLS doubles their avg at 18,807
LSU outdraws the Patriots. Your point?
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so being in the SEC means that Vanderbilt and Kentucky are better than Oregon, Oklahoma and Ohio St?
More like Vandy and Kentucky are better than Sunbel/WAC teams
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:03 pm to rdw1690
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Bradley was relegated to the MLS then a team in Serie A still wanted him
didn't see a link, and I couldn't find a source
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:06 pm to SUB
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It's really unfortunate that the U.S. doesn't have a midfielder that can step in for him when he isn't playing well.
not the Mix?
Mikkel Diskerud
Born: October 2, 1990 (age 23)
Career start: 2008
Current teams: United States men's national soccer team (#10 / Midfielder), Rosenborg BK (#42 / Midfielder)
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:07 pm to Iona Fan Man
I meant the say when (Verona) a team in Serie A still wanted him.
It's damn near impossible for a U.S. player to get on a top team in Europe. There is still a huge negative bias toward U.S. players in Europe. The only way to get on one of those teams is to essentially be a world class player.
It's damn near impossible for a U.S. player to get on a top team in Europe. There is still a huge negative bias toward U.S. players in Europe. The only way to get on one of those teams is to essentially be a world class player.
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