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Is the US Womens "dominance" only because the WC hasn't been around long?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:22 pm
I was young in 91 when the WC started. The women won. Norway won, then the US won again. Were those 2 wins in basically a 10 year span because the world just wasn't preparing/ready for a WC on the women's side?
Germany came through and did pretty well after it was established that there would be a continuous women's world cup.
Japan now looks like they will be contenders after a few WCs.
So, did we just luck out having stellar athletes and catching the other countries that have not had years to prepare?
Germany came through and did pretty well after it was established that there would be a continuous women's world cup.
Japan now looks like they will be contenders after a few WCs.
So, did we just luck out having stellar athletes and catching the other countries that have not had years to prepare?
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:29 pm to Chair
Our most athletic women aren't in the NFL.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:29 pm to Chair
The US college system was developing players better than any professional league during the 1980s and early 90s. Germany and the Sweden were the first to develop serious leagues.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:40 pm to NOTORlOUSD
So I'll take those first two responses as basically "yes" ?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:43 pm to Chair
That's a legitimate question and a big part of it is true. Our winning during the first years of the WWC is because there were only a few countries (China, Sweden, Germany, Norway) besides the US that cared about women's soccer. Even countries with recent success like France and England, women's soccer is relatively new and only recently received any kind of support from their federation, and some like Brazil only receive jack squat in terms of support and that's an increase. Japan always had individual talent, but it wasn't until last WWC that they finally put it together as a team.
The US will always have an advantage because of youth soccer, club, and high school and college. Youth soccer for girls is still the exception in most of the world, not just Africa, Asia, but Latin America nd large parts of Europe.
The US will always have an advantage because of youth soccer, club, and high school and college. Youth soccer for girls is still the exception in most of the world, not just Africa, Asia, but Latin America nd large parts of Europe.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:04 pm to Chair
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:13 pm to Chair
Because other countries don't give a shite about their women.
We should win it every year. They were saying that one girl from England was homeless. Most other countries the women have to have full time Jobs. Thailand played a game in February and not again until the world cup. There are 2 million girls playing soccer in the us, some countries only a few thousand to a few hundred.
This is another reason why American women shouldn't complain. They have it good here.
They are showing this piece on soccer in Jordan rt now. These girls are playing fully clothed on sand and rock.
We should win it every year. They were saying that one girl from England was homeless. Most other countries the women have to have full time Jobs. Thailand played a game in February and not again until the world cup. There are 2 million girls playing soccer in the us, some countries only a few thousand to a few hundred.
This is another reason why American women shouldn't complain. They have it good here.
They are showing this piece on soccer in Jordan rt now. These girls are playing fully clothed on sand and rock.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:07 pm to Chair
quote:
Is the US Womens "dominance" only because the WC hasn't been around long?
quote:
I was young in 91 when the WC started. The women won. Norway won, then the US won again. Were those 2 wins in basically a 10 year span because the world just wasn't preparing/ready for a WC on the women's side?
Germany came through and did pretty well after it was established that there would be a continuous women's world cup.
Japan now looks like they will be contenders after a few WCs.
So, did we just luck out having stellar athletes and catching the other countries that have not had years to prepare?
Let's be honest. It's largely about money, and how much your country is willing to spend on womens' sports.
Obviously it will get harder, but the competition will be pretty limited for a while (at least in comparison to the men).
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:44 pm to Chair
Football was considered unfeminine and dykey in the classic continental countries (Germany being the exception).
That has changed.
The US will not dominate in the future, but will always be a serious contender and favorite.
That has changed.
The US will not dominate in the future, but will always be a serious contender and favorite.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:05 pm to Dandy Lion
To some degree but we were the best team in 2011, are the best team now (besides maybe France) and have won 3 gold medals recently. It's not like we stole a couple of then faded to obscurity, we are still the best "program" in the world.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:30 am to RandySavage
i think of it like this... think how crappy women's soccer must be if the United States is indeed the best team in the world...
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:32 am to chalmetteowl
So we can't be good at soccer?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:37 am to NOTORlOUSD
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The US college system was developing players better than any professional league during the 1980s and early 90s. Germany and the Sweden were the first to develop serious leagues.
A ton of the players from Canada, France, Germany, England, Mexico, etc. currently play or played NCAA Division 1 soccer in the U.S.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 9:38 am
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:42 am to EastNastySwag
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So we can't be good at soccer?
obviously our men aren't, so you kind of have to question how our women are so good with the same kind of program, resources, etc.
but we talk about how college soccer holds our men back who play it. well why do our women play it?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:43 am to a want
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A ton of the players from Canada, France, Germany, England, Mexico, etc. currently play or played NCAA Division 1 soccer in the U.S.
OK, so American women's soccer is crappy, but not so crappy that players worldwide don't aspire to come and play for our D1 teams.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:47 am to Dalosaqy
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worldwide
Holy hyperbole!
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D1 team
Dat free edjamukashun doe
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:57 am to chalmetteowl
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but we talk about how college soccer holds our men back who play it. well why do our women play it?
Because men's soccer has much better setups for developing players through academies. Those cost a lot of money. Women's teams cannot put that much money into youth development because they don't make nearly as much money. The college system is about as well-funded and organized of a system for women's soccer development as you'll find. That's why.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:58 am to Dandy Lion
quote:quote:Holy hyperbole!
worldwide
It might be a slight stretch, but there are a ton of international players that come to the USA to play college soccer.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 9:59 am
Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:07 am to Chair
lol wut we have not won it since 99
and since then the rest of the world has caught up big time.
and since then the rest of the world has caught up big time.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:19 am to StraightCashHomey21
We haven't won it since 99, but we've won 3 straight gold medals, and you know the Olympics mean something in women's soccer and isn't a glorified U-23 tournament. And we've finished no worse than third in any World Cup and won the Algarve Cup multiple times since then.
Despite the narrative spun by guys on Deadspin and elsewhere, the USWNT is very successful. The biggest problem was simply Ellis deferring to Wambach and playing her more than 15 minutes a game. We really were going 10 on 11 for long stretches of the early games.
I assume she will not be around for 2016, and that gives the US an excellent group of 16 players, with incredible depth at wing, fullback, and forward. DCM will continue to be our biggest problem, but Brian seems up to the task in her finesse-based style.
Despite the narrative spun by guys on Deadspin and elsewhere, the USWNT is very successful. The biggest problem was simply Ellis deferring to Wambach and playing her more than 15 minutes a game. We really were going 10 on 11 for long stretches of the early games.
I assume she will not be around for 2016, and that gives the US an excellent group of 16 players, with incredible depth at wing, fullback, and forward. DCM will continue to be our biggest problem, but Brian seems up to the task in her finesse-based style.
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