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re: Is MLS part of the Big 4???
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:59 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:59 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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9/11 truthers.
Explain what you understand to have transpired (inquiring minds want to know). TIA
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:13 pm to stlslick
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Baseball isn't dying, and isn't going away. It's a myth that people like to sell.
I mean baseball isn't doing great nationally, it is doing fantastic regionally.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 2:05 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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He should better understand why baseball's revenues are incredible. The baseball is dying myth is almost as dumb as 9/11 truthers.
I'm not here to argue with you or call you names. Are you saying that the Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Bloomberg, Washington Post, The Atlantic, and countless other smaller, local sources are dumb?
I fully understand why baseball's revenues are very high. It has nothing to do with the fact that less youth are participating in baseball and the powers that be in baseball are concerned with the trend.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 7:33 am to John Keating
Sure, I am saying anyone who thinks baseball is in trouble is dumb.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:21 pm to bayou2003
I went to my first MLS game a few weeks ago (Orlando City vs San Jose) and it was incredible. It felt like a college football game with the chanting and drums from the supporters section. The people I were with had never watched soccer and were still getting into the game and cheering when they started picking up on the game. If Americans can break their ADD and sit still for 45 minutes at a time, I think soccer can grow to at least the third biggest sport in the U.S.
Even though "nothing happens and no one ever scores" it is infinitely more entertaining than baseball or hockey IMO.
Even though "nothing happens and no one ever scores" it is infinitely more entertaining than baseball or hockey IMO.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 3:15 pm to bayou2003
Definitely not yet.
Still NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL.
Had Cleveland had an MLS team the won the championship, I doubt they consider their drought since 1964 broken. Admittedly, an NHL championship would be far less satisfying than the Cavs', but enough to break the streak.
While MLB is far behind the NFL, the Indians winning a WS would still be huge.
Still NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL.
Had Cleveland had an MLS team the won the championship, I doubt they consider their drought since 1964 broken. Admittedly, an NHL championship would be far less satisfying than the Cavs', but enough to break the streak.
While MLB is far behind the NFL, the Indians winning a WS would still be huge.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 5:32 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Sure, I am saying anyone who thinks baseball is in trouble is dumb.
Nah, it's just boring. It has enough built up momentum to keep going for quite awhile though.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:41 pm to bayou2003
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the stands are packed, sold out.
you do realize that a lot are tiny stadiums right?
The 2015 season saw an average 21,574 spectators.
Then NBA and then MLB...and
Then...
Average attendance for all 125 FBS teams in college football was 46,000. That's for a bunch of crappy teams...average attendance for Top 25 schools was like 75,000.
And then NFL.
The Neilsen rating study last year said the most popular sports in America are:
1. NFL
2. College Football
3. MLB
4. NASCAR
5. NBA
6. NHL
Something else
and MLS was like 8th.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:50 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I think it was golf - it gets way more viewers than MLS if you count up the majors vs. an MLS full season.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:52 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Baseball and golf are akin. Great if you play, and even better if you´re good.
Horrible to watch.
NASCAR never fails to perplex me.
Horrible to watch.
NASCAR never fails to perplex me.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:24 pm to bayou2003
Big 4 (right now):
1.) NFL
2.) NBA
3.) Nascar
4.) MLB
5.) PGA
6.) NHL
7.) MLS
1.) NFL
2.) NBA
3.) Nascar
4.) MLB
5.) PGA
6.) NHL
7.) MLS
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:22 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The problem with all of this is that MLS isn't even the most popular soccer league to watch in the United States. Bringing up TV numbers doesn't add anything new.
It's a young league with a lot of weird intricacies, so it's gonna be behind in a country where soccer isn't a traditional powerhouse.
It's a young league with a lot of weird intricacies, so it's gonna be behind in a country where soccer isn't a traditional powerhouse.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:46 am to WarSlamEagle
MLS needs to focus hard on young soccer fans if the league wants any chance at cracking the big 4.
With adults who follow soccer most start with top European leagues. So when they look at MLS many get turned off by either the quality of play or its stupid rules.
With kids they don't know about the rules and probably give two fricks about quality of play. They just want to watch soccer. I know I did at that age. I had no idea MLS just placed guys like Raul Diaz Arce on DC United to appeal to the El Salvadorian population of DC or Valderrama playing for Miami or Tampa to bring in Florida Columbians.
With adults who follow soccer most start with top European leagues. So when they look at MLS many get turned off by either the quality of play or its stupid rules.
With kids they don't know about the rules and probably give two fricks about quality of play. They just want to watch soccer. I know I did at that age. I had no idea MLS just placed guys like Raul Diaz Arce on DC United to appeal to the El Salvadorian population of DC or Valderrama playing for Miami or Tampa to bring in Florida Columbians.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:47 am to Dandy Lion
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NASCAR never fails to perplex me.
I've never had the desire to watch cars go round a oval track for five hours. Bizarre shite.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 6:58 am to StraightCashHomey21
Lulz at SCHs eurosnobbery. And sorry you had shitty parents. 
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:10 am to EastNastySwag
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Lulz at SCHs eurosnobbery. And sorry you had shitty parents.
wtf are you even talking about
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:43 am to StraightCashHomey21
And I think MLS is doing a good job with younger fans. A ESPN survey of older kids had a good chunk that said they were MLS fans. It was also the same poll that had soccer as the second-most popular sport for 12 to 24 year olds.
ETA: Here it is. 12 to 17 year olds. 18 percent said they were MLS fans, the same as MLB. LINK
ETA: Here it is. 12 to 17 year olds. 18 percent said they were MLS fans, the same as MLB. LINK
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 8:46 am
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:57 am to ohiovol
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You have to compare ticket prices, though. MLS tickets are going to be much cheaper, right?
Sounders are the only MLS team I've seen and no, definitely not cheaper tickets than other sports besides maybe NFL.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 10:53 am to recruitnik
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Sounders are the only MLS team I've seen and no, definitely not cheaper tickets than other sports besides maybe NFL.
I'm assuming the Sounders (and maybe a couple other teams) can charge significantly more than most other teams. I'm fairly confident we don't pay as much in Columbus.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 7/8/16 at 10:54 am to WarSlamEagle
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And I think MLS is doing a good job with younger fans. A ESPN survey of older kids had a good chunk that said they were MLS fans. It was also the same poll that had soccer as the second-most popular sport for 12 to 24 year olds.
ETA: Here it is. 12 to 17 year olds. 18 percent said they were MLS fans, the same as MLB. LINK
That almost certainly has more to do with demographics than MLS building their brand. That said, I'll take it.
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