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Champions/Europa League Question
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:55 pm
I preface this by acknowledging that this may be a dumb question.
With that out of the way, let's say a team wins the first leg 4-0. Does a forfeit count as a 3-0 loss? If so, are there any measures in place to prevent a team from forfeiting the second match, winning 4-3 on aggregate, and guaranteeing a spot in the next round?
With that out of the way, let's say a team wins the first leg 4-0. Does a forfeit count as a 3-0 loss? If so, are there any measures in place to prevent a team from forfeiting the second match, winning 4-3 on aggregate, and guaranteeing a spot in the next round?
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:52 pm to pvilleguru
I'd assume you'd be forfeiting the round. No idea if that's accurate. 
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:28 pm to pvilleguru
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Does a forfeit count as a 3-0 loss?
I know it works like this in FIFA the game, but I don't think it does in real life.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:09 pm to McCaigBro69
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Does a forfeit count as a 3-0 loss?
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know it works like this in FIFA the game, but I don't think it does in real life.
A forfeit goes into the table as 3-0 loss in every competition of which I'm aware.
For ex, Cagliari had to forfeit to Roma a few years ago due to an issue with their stadium being deemed "unsafe" and Roma got the 3 goals in the table.
(By the way, this was seemingly the straw that broke the camel's back for Cellino in selling Cagliari).
Also, I recall the Italia v Serbia match that was cancelled due to Serbian Ultras' protests resulting in 3 goals to nil for Italia in the WC qualifying table a few years back.
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I'd assume you'd be forfeiting the round. No idea if that's accurate.
Yeah, I'd imagine there has to be something like this in the rules, especially considering the chance that matches are forfeited due to ultras etc. . .
Not a dumb question as it could be an interesting quirk . . .
(like when Greece and Austria seemed both better served by a draw against each other in the recent UEFA youth qualifying rounds)
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:52 pm to wm72
I knew somehow, some way this thread would be connected to Leeds
Posted on 4/9/16 at 10:06 pm to pvilleguru
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Does a forfeit count as a 3-0 loss? If so, are there any measures in place to prevent a team from forfeiting the second match, winning 4-3 on aggregate, and guaranteeing a spot in the next round?
1) If you can beat a team 4-0 in the first leg then you shouldn't need to pull this stunt. Obviously this is a hypothetical scenario but it leads to my next point.
2) Holy shite the blowback. You forfeit gate revenue. Players with contract incentives are shafted. Managerial records can be screwed. You have ALL of that and THEN you get to the PR nightmare.
I would imagine it would be doable but in no way practical.
After doing some extremely light research it appears it would be up to the governing body of the competition. Looks like UEFA would be able to charge the club with match fixing or going against "spirit of the sport". I would imagine there is some sort of rule in place to prevent this.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 11:09 pm to Srbtiger06
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1) If you can beat a team 4-0 in the first leg then you shouldn't need to pull this stunt. Obviously this is a hypothetical scenario but it leads to my next point.
2) Holy shite the blowback. You forfeit gate revenue. Players with contract incentives are shafted. Managerial records can be screwed. You have ALL of that and THEN you get to the PR nightmare.
I would imagine it would be doable but in no way practical.
After doing some extremely light research it appears it would be up to the governing body of the competition. Looks like UEFA would be able to charge the club with match fixing or going against "spirit of the sport". I would imagine there is some sort of rule in place to prevent this.
Yeah, it seems complete hypothetical in thinking of the leading club actually actually choosing to forfeit.
The more imaginable scenario would involve something like the Cagliari v Roma match I mentioned above.
Sampdoria, for example, was excluded a couple of years back from Europe League due to some repairs happening in the stadium that wouldn't be done on time and refusing to play in another venue.
You could imagine a scenario where they "lied" about the stadium repairs, won 4-0 away against a smaller side in the playoff round but were then caught and had to forfeit the home fixture.
However, if UEFA have rules that kept Samp out in the first place they probably have something in place to penalize the club in this case.
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