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Bayern's transfers vs. Barcelona's transfers

Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:49 pm
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@ZachLowy
Bayern bought Leroy Sané, Alphonso Davies, Niklas Süle, Leon Goretzka, Serge Gnabry, Joshua Kimmich, Robert Lewandowski, Xabi Alonso, Thiago, and Jérôme Boateng for less money than Barcelona paid for Philippe Coutinho
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 12:50 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:07 pm to
Barca is in that phase a ton of big clubs go through once in a while

Just throw shite at the wall and hope it sticks
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:12 pm to
It helps when you get a lot of free transfers of other teams’ best players.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:12 pm to
This is what happens when your youth academy starts stalling and you don’t know what to do about it
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:21 pm to
Not really an apples to apples comparison either. Several of those guys were bought long before the market went haywire.

Liverpool paid less for Firmino, Salah, and Mane than United paid for Fred, Nemanja Matic, and Diogo Dalot. Big spenders make a lot of mistakes in the market. Law of averages.



Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:21 pm to
Are you under the impression that Barcelona couldn’t do the same thing?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:22 pm to
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It helps when you get a lot of free transfers of other teams’ best players.



The Juventus method
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:22 pm to
Bayern’s academy hasn’t done shite in a while
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:26 pm to
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Liverpool paid less for Firmino, Salah, and Mane than United paid for Fred, Nemanja Matic, and Diogo Dalot. Big spenders make a lot of mistakes in the market. Law of averages.


Liverpool also over paid for bunch of meh players right before that

All big clubs go through it
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:29 pm to
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Are you under the impression that Barcelona couldn’t do the same thing?

No but for some reason they choose not to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:26 pm to
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Are you under the impression that Barcelona couldn’t do the same thing




Not under the current leadership. They've bought and sold poorly. Sucks that Messi has been stuck in a situation where he has to drop deeper to compensate for the inability of Barca to progress play quickly. Selling Arthur, when he looks like a Xavi clone, is incredibly myopic. They've bought mildly poorly since the Cesc transfer, and frankly have been bailed out by Messi's insane production.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 6:27 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:38 pm to
Xavi so overrated
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22284 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:41 pm to
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hey've bought mildly poorly since the Cesc transfer


I'd say after the back to back summers of Neymar/Suarez..
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:16 pm to
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They've bought and sold poorly.


Yeah, that was the point of the comparison. I was just responding to the comment discounting Bayern's ability in the transfer market to just getting everybody's best player on a free. That's good business, and Barcelona could pull that off more if they weren't run by idiots.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:31 pm to
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Xavi so overrated


I disagree. Barca has struggled mightily in midfield since Xavi and Iniesta left, and Messi compensates by dropping deep to brilliant effect, but he would have been even more productive had Barca had a third midfielder to progress the ball up the field. Arthur was an immediately more progressive passer than Vidal, for example, which allowed Messi to receive the ball higher up the field.

Xavi did that job so effortlessly that people think any midfielder could do it. The fact that Messi has had to play deeper and deeper is evidence that Xavi played a vital role.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:35 pm to
I'd argue Cesc because Cesc often played in front of Thiago, who was a ready-made replacement for Xavi, and who subsequently left right when Xavi was declining and when Cesc proved he couldn't play a deeper role. Thiago is a better all-around midfielder than Cesc, as Cesc was slow as shite, didn't contribute defensively, and was positionally wayward. In hindsight, losing Thiago was as big a mistake as any of their other transfer spending.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Xavi so overrated


jesus christ. Xavi is probably a top 10 midfielder of all time
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:42 am to
What’s amazing to me is that they don’t even really have depth to show for it

Two injuries and they’re having to beg la liga to let them make a signing outside of the transfer window

They’re probably going to have to replace a lot of players in the nearish future. I wonder if they’ll fix their clown car of a board before then
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