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re: Your federal hiring freeze at work

Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:34 am to
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:34 am to
But what about those jobs that the guy wants to create?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:34 am to
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These clowns are chained and locked to Trump's train at this point. They're all in. There is no changing going back.

this isn't a Trump decision

this is a military-bureaucrat decision
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90624 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:34 am to
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know a chick who works for Teaching for America. She started wailing and gnashing teeth because they were basically told they were about to get shut the frick down.


This makes me sad as every year here in the delta TFA brings a new crop of teachers around and there's usually a few hot ones and they are always easy.

But I'll sacrifice for the greater good
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:34 am to
As I understand it, regular day care is not affected.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:34 am to
I never attended day care or kindergarten and I turned out just fine.

Maybe the military should ask for volunteer nannies to remedy their problem.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:34 am to
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replacing these services on the market will stretch budgets for many of them



This particular base where the letter came from is in Germany, so I wonder if outside services are even available.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:35 am to
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the F35 program has been a boondoggle and i'll never forgive Obama for cutting the F22 program due to its cost while thie costs of the F35 exploded. plus frick the marines for their insane requests. but at least it's a legitimate advance in technology that keeps our dominance in the air and cannot be found anywhere else
I agree that the F35 program has been one of the biggest scams the military or government has pulled on the American people in quite some time. And I'm willing to discuss that at anything me....but not in comparison to fricking daycare.


People like DS will come in here and complain about daycare spending cuts but then bitch about a new Aircraft Carrier. It's as if they think they military should be some sort of massive jobs/welfare program. Which if I'm being honest it is for a lot of people.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:35 am to
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It looks like, in reality, a way to shrink a lot of existing federal employees.
Only through attrition so far. These things are a cycle. The next POTUS will increase the size of feds to compensate...this has been going on for decades.
The only way to make a real change would be to reduce the scope of the military's mission. Something no conservative has ever done.
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
8676 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:36 am to
Blame previous administrations.......wouldn't be necessary if we were not a gazillion dollars in debt. But we have to right this ship and we are ALL going to have to do our part
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:36 am to
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It's as if they think they military should be some sort of massive jobs/welfare program

it is just this more often than not
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:36 am to
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:37 am to
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The hiring freeze isn't on the military. I think this is someone taking advantage of the ignorant.
Only uniformed personnel are exempted (save the "excepted service") though those are frozen at a lot of places too.

LINK

And these kinds of jobs (daycare and other MWR functions) are typically NAF positions that aren't funded through the regular appropriations process. Not sure how much that influences how they'll be handled.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140479 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:38 am to
I don't know your military lingo but I would hope that essential positions like this would be funded.

If not, that needs to be corrected.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:39 am to
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it is just this more often than not

Of course it is, as I said in my post. The point being that the left WANTS the military to be a jobs/welfare program. Why aren't we bitching about that sort of thing when we talk about spending in the military instead of bitching about the military not having enough daycare workers.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:39 am to
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this isn't a Trump decision

this is a military-bureaucrat decision
How? This is how a blanket hiring freeze works. You can't replace people who leave with new employees. In a high turnover situation you are fricked.
Posted by meddizzle
Colorado
Member since Apr 2008
794 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:40 am to
Cut all of these dumbass programs, it seems there is a special program for everything on bases these days. I would never send my kids to the on base daycare anyway, buncha overpaid civilians counts.... fire em all, and focus on what matters for the military.



Killing American enemies
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2177 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:40 am to
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how much anyone want to bet the director of that program is incredibly over paid


It doesn't have anything to do with funding. Your president ordered a federal hiring freeze. Which includes positions like these on every military base.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:41 am to
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The hiring freeze isn't on the military. I think this is someone taking advantage of the ignorant.




Not on active duty military, no. These jobs aren't manned by active duty personnel though. Civilian employees are included though. We are having to push timely waivers ourselves to hire hospital staff to fill positions that are left empty, and hope they get approved.

It's been a short time so it hasn't snowballed much, but hopefully it gets removed shortly
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84859 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:41 am to
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It's as if they think they military should be some sort of massive jobs/welfare program.


That's not what I'm saying, but if this is your idea of "draining the swamp" then you've got some misplaced priorities.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422561 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:42 am to
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How? This is how a blanket hiring freeze works.

read paragraph 4. they have the ability to move resources around but chose other programs

like i've said before, this is what bureaucrats do when facing cuts. they cut the stuff that will get the biggest emotional response so people go "awww we can't cut government. think of the children!" it's a calculated move they've perfected for self preservation.

this isn't a new move. you can find examples of this same shite going back to ancient bureaucratic states like ancient China and the Roman Empire. it's a political move that humans have been falling for, for literally thousands of years
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