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Would it be a really big deal if the Russians changed a few votes?
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:00 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:00 am
If not how much?
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1000000?
10?
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:01 am to GumboPot
quote:I assume you mean "changed" as in, changed and actually cast vote and not simply persuading.
Would it be a really big deal if the Russians changed a few votes?
Well. Of course it would be a big deal.
It would be a big deal if they successfully changed 1.
But, that's a different discussion than the one the liberals are trying to have.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:02 am to GumboPot
This a serious question? Anyone with any real pride in our country would be pissed if they even attempted to change 1.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:03 am to GumboPot
There is no evidence that they've changed any votes.
The only thing that they have any proof of is troll accounts posting positive trump stuff
The only thing that they have any proof of is troll accounts posting positive trump stuff
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:04 am to The Pirate King
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the only thing that they have any proof of is troll accounts posting positive trump stuff
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:05 am to Haughton99
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This a serious question? Anyone with any real pride in our country would be pissed if they even attempted to change 1.
I agree.
Some people seem to not care about this. Corrupting our elections is a big deal, at least to me.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:07 am to Haughton99
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Anyone with any real pride in our country would be pissed if they even attempted to change 1.
Yet you quickly dismissed the Indiana voter fraud story because it was tied to democrats.
Classic.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:07 am to The Pirate King
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The only thing that they have any proof of is troll accounts posting positive trump stuff
This is complete BS but keep your head in the sand if you want.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:08 am to GumboPot
quote:
Would it be a really big deal if the Russians changed a few votes?
Yes. Absolutely.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:09 am to Haughton99
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this is complete BS but keep your head in the sand if you want.
This was the only thing confirmed by our government. Literally, it's not a lie. Russian bots making propaganda on social media was their evidence.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:10 am to Clyde Tipton
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Yet you quickly dismissed the Indiana voter fraud story because it was tied to democrats.
It's worse than just Indiana and the Russians. Foreign agents have been corrupting our elections for decades.
From WaPo:
quote:
How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.
Because non-citizens tended to favor Democrats (Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens in the 2008 CCES sample), we find that this participation was large enough to plausibly account for Democratic victories in a few close elections. Non-citizen votes could have given Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health-care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress. Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) won election in 2008 with a victory margin of 312 votes. Votes cast by just 0.65 percent of Minnesota non-citizens could account for this margin. It is also possible that non-citizen votes were responsible for Obama’s 2008 victory in North Carolina. Obama won the state by 14,177 votes, so a turnout by 5.1 percent of North Carolina’s adult non-citizens would have provided this victory margin.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:16 am to GumboPot
quote:
If not how much?
10?
100?
1000?
10000?
100000?
1000000?
1 vote would be serious.
But I also think it is serious to allow dead people, felons, and illegal immigrants the right to illegally cast a vote.
There needs to be more security with out election process. We need voterid. We need mandatory 25 year sentences for violating the voting laws, with no parole.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:46 am to Deuces
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This was the only thing confirmed by our government. Literally, it's not a lie. Russian bots making propaganda on social media was their evidence.
It's true that this is one example of Russia's interference but to call it the only one is just false.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:51 am to GumboPot
Even though it more than likely did not happen, IF it happened, I'd be very concerned b/c in theory, your vote wouldn't truly matter b/c it could be changed with a mouse click.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:53 am to GumboPot
quote:
Would it be a really big deal if the Russians changed a few votes?
What. The. frick? Are Trump supporters seriously going to start hedging in this fashion?
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:58 am to GumboPot
quote:If for example those changed votes were due to exposure of truth regarding Hillary cheating in the debates, and if that were the only way the facts would come out, the Russians did our democracy a service.
Would it be a really big deal if the Russians changed a few votes?
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:00 am to cwill
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What. The. frick? Are Trump supporters seriously going to start hedging in this fashion?
A majority of them on this board have all but admitted that they don't care how far Russia went as long as Trump won nothing else matters.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:02 am to GumboPot
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Would it be a really big deal if the Russians changed a few votes?
HELL YES...even 1 vote.......but they didn't so there's that
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:08 am to GumboPot
Changing votes within voting machines? 1 vote would be too many and it would be a big deal.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:11 am to GumboPot
If the Dems hadn't run out Hillary we wouldn't have Trump. It's their fault.
Unless Russia was responsible for running out Hillary there is nothing to be mad about except being mad about their own shitty pick for a nominee.
Unless Russia was responsible for running out Hillary there is nothing to be mad about except being mad about their own shitty pick for a nominee.
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