re: woah woah woah CNN interviews undocumented Hampshire College student

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It's full of people who think that gratuitously adding "personal responsibility"

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You really don't get it do you? The only personal responsibility evident pertaining to this thread is your and my responsibility to take care of them with our tax money. Any person with a brain should be just a little upset with that.

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You really don't get it do you? The only personal responsibility evident pertaining to this thread is your and my responsibility to take care of them with our tax money. Any person with a brain should be just a little upset with that

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Why do we have to take care of them if they are on a path to legalized status and they are given a work permit? Wouldn't they be adding to the tax base? Study after study has shown that when they are able to work, immigrants are a net gain to the economy. When they can't, they are a drain.

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frick your feelings.

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So mature. It ain't my feelings getting fricked, it's every taxpayer's pocketbook getting fricked. Would you like to pay my unfair share to take care of these people? I'd be more than willing to keep my feelings to myself if you would.

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If you voted for Trump or Clinton, you don't get to judge people's maturity level.

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And you do because why?

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And you do because why?

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I didn't judge anyone's maturity level. You did, because melt.

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How do you know that deportation of these individuals who are using publicly funded resources wouldn't cost us less?

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I don't.

What I do know is that the GOP would push harder on this issue if it weren't so politically costly to them.

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The plan set forth above rewards illegal conduct. If you think that's sets a great precedent, then you are more liberal than I believe. We have allowed this country to become a cesspool of undesirables from other countries. I am not talking about the poor, I am talking about the criminals and clinically insane. It is people like you who want to continue to accept these criminals and their children who truly lack the ability to reason.

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This is a pile of Bull. Crap.

1. I'm a conservative. Have been for years. And, it is by choice and study.
2. This does not reward illegal behavior. It allows those who were brought here without their consent an avenue to GET RIGHT with the law. It actually creates a way for legal behavior to commence.
3. I am totally against illegal immigration, am for a secure border, and have no problem with a 100 foot high wall. Knock yourself out.
4. I believe in the rule of law. But, having a blanket law that allows for no consideration for those brought here without their consent is not a just law. It punishes the victim.
5. Make them work for it. Don't give them a thing. Make them spend a couple of years in civil service or military service. Make them take citizenship classes, pay fines, prove they are working or are in school, do thousands of hours of community service, make it take 10 years. If at any point they don't want to fulfill the path laid out, deport them. The choice is there's. But, give them an opportunity. They are in a different class than those who just willingly flaunted our law. They were kids.
6. Yes, deport all the undesirables, criminals, those who won't work, and those who want to leech off the system. Deport those who won't come forward and get on a pathway within the allowed time period. This was Ben Carson's plan during the primaries.

This plan would benefit EVERYONE. Now that border security will be guaranteed, the only reason we could not adopt this is stubbornness.

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How do you know that deportation of these individuals who are using publicly funded resources wouldn't cost us less?

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I don't understand how people getting free use of roads, tax subsidized hospitals, police and fire departments, etc. is a good thing.

I understand the angst ballcaster has. Sincerely. But continuing to have open borders with allowing a welfare state will. It work down the road.

I love immigrants. The more the merrier.

Make the process easier for people getting here and find a way to get current illegals to either self deport (don't laugh, I think some here for less than honest purposes will leave on their own volition) or make it easy for them to come out, declare themselves and get the ball rolling.

I do feel for families in this situation. I do. But we don't go to a 3 year old son of a convict and say "you know what, it's not fair that your parents' actions affect you as a child, so your mommy doesn't have to go to jail."

Thinking of the children is important, but we're not in a vacuum and actions have consequences.

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So mature. It ain't my feelings getting fricked, it's every taxpayer's pocketbook getting fricked. Would you like to pay my unfair share to take care of these people? I'd be more than willing to keep my feelings to myself if you would.

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Again, a pathway to earned legalized status IS NOT taking care of these people. They have to work and pay taxes and fines. They have to contribute - the whole time. They don't just get on welfare and sit around.

If you care about the law, THE LAW says that if they are here, they have to be educated in public schools. The LAW also says that they are entitled to due process. If a child was brought here at 3 years old and is now 15 or 18, they cannot just be deported without due process. The inmigration courts have a MASSIVE backlog because there isn't funding from Congress to expand them. Deporting all of the illegals will cost $400-600 Billion. Who is going to pay for that? You! Creating a pathway to legalized status is actually a NET GAIN for the economy and will increase the tax base.

Your solution actually hurts you and everyone else.

Secure the border. Enforce immigration law. But, recognize that we have a problem that was created over the past 30 years that has to be solved in another way beyond deportation.

It is like saying that the only way to deal with a foreign dispute with another country is through bombing them. Bomb everyone! That is just stupid and becomes counterproductive. That is what is going on here.

You're an intellectual lightweight and one of the usable fools Stalin warned about. How does it feel?