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re: Will all those gun sales after Sandy Hook, crime rates should rise, right?

Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:04 am to
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8396 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:04 am to
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Keeping them in the hands of responsible gun owners' hands is
keeping drunks from behind steering wheels will save tens of thousands of lives....



ignition breathalyzers for everyone!
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:04 am to
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How? Legal guns are not the issue.
Gun registrations would help keep them legal. Give owners quick ways to sell responsible. Subsidize any related costs if necessary to make sure that private sales are handled as tightly as commercial sales.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:05 am to
I mean there is no way a criminal is going to break the law to obtain a firearm right?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:05 am to
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keeping drunks from behind steering wheels will save tens of thousands of lives..
Cars are registered. Why not guns?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:06 am to
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I mean there is no way a criminal is going to break the law to obtain a firearm right?
Well the "legal" firearm owner will have to come up with the reason why he no longer has possession of the gun.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8396 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:07 am to
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Cars are registered
and we all know drunks ONLY drive registered vehicles.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:07 am to
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Cars are registered. Why not guns?


One is a Constitutionally protected right. Oh, and not like HC, a real, enumerated one.

Owning a car is not. Oh and btw, you can own an unregistered vehicle. It must be registered to drive on public roads.

Double fail in one analogy, you progtards have been stepping up your game!
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8396 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:09 am to
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Cars are registered. Why not guns?



how about we require you to register with the Feds to be able to post on the internet.

or write a blog.

or send an email.

or write a book.










something no one has ever answered for me on TD's
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45803 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:10 am to
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Gun registrations would help keep them legal.


Gun registration leads to gun confiscation. This is a fact.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:13 am to
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Gun registration leads to gun confiscation. This is a fact.
Here we go with the "They are taking our guns" meme again.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45803 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:13 am to
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Give owners quick ways to sell responsible.


If this is the case, why not have a 800 number for sellers to call, if the seller chooses. Lets them do a paperless background check with only the buyer's driver's licence info, similar to a 4473 form. Approve or deny and no record... The seller can write down a confirmation number for future needs.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 10:18 am
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:17 am to
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have something by the door inside that can be used as a weapon, like a huge candlestick holder.


Here you go, person coming in... here's an extra weapon you can use!

fricking retards.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:23 am to
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Gun homicides have been going down since the Brady Bill was passed. Go figure. 


Actually they went down before that but don't let reality get in the way of your facts. You might want to explain why all those supposed felons denied were practically never arrested for attempting to purchase a firearm.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:26 am to
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Actually they went down before that but don't let reality get in the way of your facts. You might want to explain why all those supposed felons denied were practically never arrested for attempting to purchase a firearm.
I am sure it was a concession from when the law was written. Not sure if there is a uniform reason given when you are denied and someone may simply be ignorant of whatever reason caused the denial.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:29 am to
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If this is the case, why not have a 800 number for sellers to call, if the seller chooses. Lets them do a paperless background check with only the buyer's driver's licence info, similar to a 4473 form. Approve or deny and no record... The seller can write down a confirmation number for future needs.
Something like that would make sense. Maybe even just a website or app you can use. Basically the seller would login in, identify the gun being sold, and enter the buyer's account number. The buyer then has 24 hours to log in and accept the transaction. When receipt is received by the seller, the gun and money can change hands.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:30 am to
That's a bunch of bs. Do you even know the gun laws? Apparently not.

Direct at mmgrath.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 10:31 am
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45803 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:32 am to
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identify the gun being sold


No, only ok that the person purchasing the gun is legal. No serial numbers...
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8396 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:33 am to
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how about we require you to register with the Feds to be able to post on the internet.


or write a blog.


or send an email.

or write a book.




something no one has ever answered for me on TD's




I'm waiting.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:34 am to
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That's a bunch of bs. Do you even know the gun laws? Apparently not.

Direct at mmgrath.
I am not well versed in background checks. Sue me. I know up to a certain number of years ago (10?) they weren't so uniform but it seems like they are coming together. It is still up to individual state agencies to submit the relative data as far as I understand it. Not sure what the specifics have to do with the discussion though.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:37 am to
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I'm waiting.
Blogs can't fall into the wrong hands and be used to commit a homicide. Gun regulations have already been determined by the Supreme Court as NOT being a violation of the 2nd, so there's that as well.
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