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Why would the president fight so hard for contraception mandate?

Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4166 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:30 am
Why would the Obama administration, having won the legislative struggle to get Obamacare passed and fought a brutal legal battle to prevent it from being overturned by the Supreme Court, risk another visit to that fickle tribunal by insisting on this egregious mandate?

An answer is suggested by the President’s recent nomination of William B. Schultz to head the legal team at Health & Human Services. Never heard of Mr. Schultz? He is an attorney and long-time lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry. He has been acting general counsel for HHS since last year. What has this to do with the contraception mandate? Well, as Tim Carney of the Washington Examiner has pointed out, Schultz’s biggest client was “Barr Laboratories, maker of the morning-after contraception pill known as Plan B.”


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Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:33 am to
They're framing a narrative. Young single women (incl single mothers) grew up with all kinds ideas regarding what they're entitled to RE: sexual health and reproduction. It resonates, and women 18-33 or so are growing into an important voting block. They have more money, independence, and political conviction than at any time in history.

"War on women" rhetoric may well end up paying better dividends than racial identity/grievance politics ever did for either party. And you'll always have some old fn relic say something during an election to fan the flames (i.e. real rape vs. other kinds, etc).
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 9:31 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35362 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Why would the president fight so hard for contraception mandate?
Why are some people so against it?
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:44 am to
You know some old right wing nut will make a ridiculous statement and further piss off women about rape or such. OK at least twice. Add to this the fuel from this decision and 95% of the women's vote will pave a way for a Hillary victory.

It's a political move ands nothing to do with the violation of women's rights. Yea I am cynical.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90498 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:49 am to
There is no way in hell women would vote 95 percent for Hillary. She isn't that popular among older and married conservative women. She would get 70 percent or so of young single women but would do poorly among older and married women
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:50 am to
Could be but still 70% is a ton.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12007 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:04 am to
Because it deflects the attention from tragedies and coverups such as Benghazi.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:08 am to
Boy isn't that the truth! Only thing I would've added was #tcot.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Why are some people so against it?


Not against contraceptives.

quote:

con·tra·cep·tive (kntr-sptv)

n.
A device, drug, or chemical agent that prevents conception.

Against abortifacient.

quote:

a·bor·ti·fa·cient (-bôrt-fshnt)

adj.
Causing abortion.

n.
A substance or device used to induce abortion.


Posted by shattersfull
Member since Dec 2013
64 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Why are some people so against it?



Because it is not free.

Just because someone wants something, that doesn't constitute a "right".

I am not against women buying whatever they want concerning contraception, just don't ask me to pay for it.

Why is that so hard for anyone to understand.

The left has gained control of the language. Somehow if I don't want to pay for something you want, I am now waging a war on you. They come off a spoiled teenage brats.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:11 am to
quote:

The left has gained control of the language. Somehow if I don't want to pay for something you want, I am now waging a war on you. They come off a spoiled teenage brats.


So much truth to this. So much.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Why would the president fight so hard for contraception mandate
to show how big a bag of dicks the Republicans are.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:13 am to
It's political.

Well over 90% of plans covered contraception prior to Obamacare. It was a solution looking for a problem.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35362 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Not against contraceptives.
quote:

Against abortifacient.

That's Hobby Lobby's public stance, not the general narrative or what the OP is referring to.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:14 am to
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Tigah in the ATL


Another wonderful contribution to the dialogue.

Yay you.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:17 am to
quote:

That's Hobby Lobby's public stance, not the general narrative or what the OP is referring to.


It is exactly the point to the OP. We are conflating contraceptives (which the Catholic Church has issues with) to abortifacients (which evangelical Christians have issue with).

There is no war on contraceptives (and by extension, women).
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:18 am to
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You know some old right wing nut will make a ridiculous statement and further piss off women about rape or such

You mean like Whoopee Goldberg defending Roman Polanski's rape?

This is yet another opportunity for the Obama administration to pit one group of Americans against another group of Americans. Its been their bread and butter since day one and sadly the populace is dumb enough to eat this up.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35362 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:25 am to
quote:

There is no war on contraceptives (and by extension, women).
The war is on ObamaCare, any way the right can chip away at it.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5183 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:26 am to
he is self destructive and he does not care how much he tears apart the country

the more chaos the better
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:27 am to
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to abortifacients
I think you mean to things that people believe to be "abortifacients."
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