Why was Alexander Downer recording George Papadoupolos if their meeting was chance?

Was a push-pull, that was the pull.

Yep

So when do we get some accountability for the push? I’m ready

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But if he went into the meeting knowing he was to record papadoupolos, it throws the entire timeline into chaos, because it means the fbi surveillance against trump campaign was already underway, and Downer was told to make contact to gather info.

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Some people here were saying this over 2 years ago. Downer was undoubtedly sent in as a spy. I mean he is a former diplomat so he definitely has intel ties as do all diplomats.

My personal theory is that FusionGPS was being ran by the Russians - or at least heavily influenced by them. Glen Simpson we know for a fact was working with Veselnitskaya to overturn the Magnistky Act (something Putin wanted done). I think this whole thing was a setup by Fusion using their ally Chris Steele who was also likely a Russian agent. They were knowingly spreading fake Russian dirt about Trump.

There is a reason Hillary paid Fusion massive amounts of money. You don't need to spend $10 million for a simple National Enquirer style dossier that any intern could write in a weekend. No, you spend $10 million to utterly destroy someone (i.e. to set them up and make it look convincing).

So I think the Russians had their own motives (undermine the candidates). I think Fusion had it's motive (character assassination for hire). And the FBI had their own motive for believing all the BS out there (Orange Man Bad).

I still wanna know what the CIA knew and when they knew it. The CIA's rile has been pretty much ignored (at least publicly) in all of this. I hope Durham has the clearance necessary to go in there and look at documents and interview people.

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Dude, Obama’s admin was unmasking Trump campaign people all the way back during the Republican primaries. They were unmasking all the top candidates.

The IC was trying to spy on the Trump campaign as early as March 2016, because that’s when Mifsud setup and met with PapaD the first time.

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British press has reported that the British GCHQ was spying on Trump as early as "late 2015." (The GCHQ is the Brit equivalent to our NSA. That is, they listen in on your phone calls and text messages).

The anonymous Brit intel operatives claimed to the Brit press that they weren't spying just to be spying but had found that Trump's people were making contact with known Russian intel operatives. Eventually the Brits contacted CIA and told them what was up. Hannigan, GCHQ's director, flew to Washington to meet personally with John Brennan. It was likely early 2016 that CIA/NSA got involved and took over the spy operation. It was the CIA who convinced Downer and Halper to approach both Papa and Page. FBI was just now coming into the picture about this time.

Remember it is perfectly legal to spy on an American if they are overseas or if they are getting calls/texts from people already under surveillance. (This is called "incidental" collection). The caveat is that the name of the American must be "masked" in the intel reports unless the consumer of the intel has a good reason to request the name from the distributing agency. For instance, if NSA created the intel product, the person would need to contact NSA and ask for the name. Samantha Power did exactly this over 300 times, which is highly, highly irregular. I saw one guy who worked for Bush in a national security adviser role and he said "I only requested names be unmasked like 2 or 3 times in my career." He was commenting how out of the ordinary unmasking is, even just one time much less 300.

Devin Nunes went to the Eisenhower building to look at the raw intelligence and looked pissed when he came out of there. Apparently they had been listening to personal phone calls of Ivanka, Jared and others. Nunes said that they were listening to phone calls that had absolutely nothing to do with Russia or Russians. If true, this is illegal. They cannot listen to such phone calls unless cleared to do so by the FISA court. And it seems highly unlikely they had FISA warrants out on Jared, Ivanka and other Trump aides.

Will anything be done about it? Nope. Both parties love the power to spy like this. Both parties reauthorized FISA even after this story broke.

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Mifsud is the lynchpin that is going to tie it all back together to the FBI. Why did he lie to the SC 3 times and wasn't charged?

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Yeah, there is zero rational reason to let Mifsud go unless he has information damaging to the case and to US Intelligence officials.

This is easy logical deduction.

I’m not even sure Comey and the FBI knew he was running a job for us until they interviewed him, too. Mifsud was a favor on loan, so just not sure yet who procured that favor. But I’m certain the FBI were told when they interviewed him, and it’s someone big enough that they had to let Mifsud go.

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Why did he lie to the SC 3 times and wasn't charged?

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I keep hearing this but what did he lie about?

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Remember it is perfectly legal to spy on an American if they are overseas 

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If you go back and watch Senator Gram question Kavanaugh during the Senate Conformation you will find that US citizens have constitutionally protected rights from our government no matter where you are.

I frequently record chance, friendly meetings.

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7) Fast forward again and he pleads guilty for lying to FBI.

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Your entire post in speculation not based on any facts whatsoever. Please detail exactly what he lied about. Be specific. What was the lie?