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re: Why hasnt Obama personally denied the allegations of wiretapping?

Posted on 3/12/17 at 6:30 am to
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 6:30 am to
I will pray for you this day Ballscaster.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:15 am to
Why should he have to deny or admit?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:19 am to
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Why should he have to deny or admit?




sounds like my question about why Trump should have to deny the Russian horse shite that has been going on for months with no proof whatsoever?

Obama isn't saying anything because he doesn't know what Trump has
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:23 am to
But people who know him say it's likely he's pouting and stomping his feet in outrage.

That should be enough to prove he did nothing.

Of course there's always the possibility, now that he's no longer president and doesn't have to be well informed, that he's yet to hear about it on the news.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:28 am to
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Why wont Obama publicly deny it himself?


Guilty?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:35 am to
quote:

But its not beneath Obama to have the IRS target conservatives, spy on AP reporters or use illegal surveillance on Josh Rosen ?



Apples and assholes comparison.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Why hasnt Obama personally denied the allegations of wiretapping?


On the advice of his attorneys would be my guess. That first Miranda right and all.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:25 am to
Why hasn't Obama bashed the NYT for printing stories about the Trump campaign being spied on? Because the stories are true!
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:32 am to
The burden of proof is on Trump. He's the one who, strangely or not so much, went silent right after the allegations. It's like he knows it didn't happen or something.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Obama wiretapped his campaign and found no evidence.


He did? Can you show me one single piece of evidence that proves Obama himself ordered any or all of the ALLEGED wiretaps on Trump's campaign.

You're making my point for me. If what you're saying is true then Obama would already be arrested and in jail. The fact no evidence has been brought against him even after the POTUS' twitter tantrum should tell you that nothing is proven as of now.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 1:09 pm to
I agree with you on this (except the FISA stuff is somewhat concerning)....I also agree with you on there being no reason to respond to Russia!! I also think the same logic should be applied to tax returns and birth certificates.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 1:12 pm to
I agree with all that with one exception. I wouldn't care about tax returns if Trump would've just put his business dealings in a blind trust like every other president. With all the bullshite surrounding him and the fact he wouldn't release his tax return it just seems concerning. It doesn't make him guilty. I just think the smart play would be to put it in a blind trust to alleviate legitamite concerns.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48745 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 1:23 pm to
In order to put it in a blind trust he would have to sell his current assets which are heavily invested in real estate. It could cost him hundreds of millions in losses for having to sell at a discount. If not, perhaps cause taxable gains on properties he wouldn't have otherwise sold. I understand the fear of using the office for profit. But there is no requirement to place assets in blind trust. With the media scrutiny and his current net worth. It seems silly to worry about that one issue.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:01 pm to
He did, dumb arse

Quit reading Breitbart
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:29 pm to
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Obama isn't saying anything because he doesn't know what Trump has


Obama isnt saying anything because Trump is a lying dumbass now caught with his dick out and looking like the arse clown that he is.

He doesnt have to say anything Trump does the demonstrably stupid shite all on his own.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:51 pm to
That pic pretty much nails it for now, BB. At least until Trump gets his folk in the game. But this won't go away, because nailing Obama will be the only thing that forces him to go away. And they don't have to have proof that Obama *ordered* the tapping; the people (minus the delusional) know that it's Bill Clinton's "depends on what the meaning of word is...is".

Bottom line. Trump beat em'. The evidence that there WAS indeed tapping of Trump's people in a hotly contested election by his (Trump's) Opposition will be what sticks. And the more Obama remains silent, or overly lies...the more he takes on the 'dindu nuffin' persona.

It'll take Trump two terms to straighten this crap out.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

It seems silly to worry about that one issue.


Not really. He chose to run for president. While it may not be required he could release his tax returns at no cost to him. Why not do that?

If he wouldn't put his assets in a blind trust for liquidation issues then why not release his tax returns? He's got no real reason to hide it from the public if it's all on the up and up like he claims.

Right now the president of the united states has the opportunity to create wealth for himself by creating, amending, or dismantling laws which benefit him and his businesses, and the American people wouldn't be able to find out. That doesn't concern you at all?

I'm not saying he is doing that or will. I am just saying transparency on this matter is crucial for the American people to trust that the laws/EOs proposed by the Trump administration are being done in the best interest of the country and not his own self interest.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112635 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

His spokesman only said he didn't "order" them, which is probably true.


There has been a lot of parsing from Obama's people.
Like: "A president cannot legally order wire tapping."

That's like:

Police: Did you rob the bank?
Robber: Bank robbing is illegal.
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