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Why doesn't Trump take the lead on Obamacare repeal?

Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:14 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:14 pm
Why does he sit back and push for GOPe to get their bill passed? Obama did lying tours, national TV shows to sell the lies, and pushed what he wanted to say about the plan.

Why does the Art of the Deal Dealmeister have a hands-off approach on one of his biggest campaign promises and what will likely be signature legislation?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73470 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:17 pm to
Getting in the middle of the fight between establishment and the tea party conservatives really wouldn't be a good idea.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:17 pm to
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Why does the Art of the Deal Dealmeister have a hands-off approach on one of his biggest campaign promises and what will likely be signature legislation?

cause he is a bogus deal maker? Doesn't know the details of the bill, and probably doesn't care?

I dunno. It is a head scratcher. He will need to get in slug it out for tax reform, and the budget.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:19 pm to
Cuts into his Twitter time
Posted by Snakebucket
New Braunfels, Texas
Member since Sep 2011
3548 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:19 pm to
Because the emperor has no clothes.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:21 pm to
He's trying to sit on both sides of the fence. Trump partially won the primary by being so vague and pandering that people essentially projected whatever policy goals they had onto him. If he starts getting specific, he might start alienating people. In reality, Trump's not a detail guy, so he doesn't know what he wants.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79119 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:21 pm to
1) Because Trump has no capacity for leading on policy. He has no idea what to do in this arena, isn't good at listening to advisors, and therefore must rely on Congress to put his loosely defined policy objectives into motion. As a result, he won't lead on repeal because the replacement is too uncertain.

2) As a result of the above, he doesn't want to own a repeal that doesn't come with a replacement. Which isn't unique to him, it's true of most Republicans.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:21 pm to
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cause he is a bogus deal maker?


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Hawkeye95


Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Why doesn't Trump take the lead on Obamacare repeal?


There are times I'm playing basketball and it would be the perfect, absolutely perfect, moment to throw down a tomahawk two handed dunk. but I cant dunk. even though it is the exact right moment, and I really want to do it, I just don't have that ability.

That is trump and leading.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14484 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:22 pm to
Because healthcare is more complicated than he thought?


Seriously he isn't a policy wonk, much less a healthcare policy wonk. He is doing what he should be doing, pressuring the sides to work together.

Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1235 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:25 pm to
My quess is that he doesnt understand the details of it at all. He is 71 years old. His brain pretty much works like ,"mmm good, mmm bad". The only thing he can really do is verbal bash affordable Care act
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:38 pm to
Because leaders have to lead.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:41 pm to
Have you seen him when he's interviewed? It's not pretty. He would need at least a minimal knowledge of the actual contents of the bill to be able to sell it to the public. He admitted on twitter today that he would sign anything, no matter how bad, that comes to his desk.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:44 pm to
Little known fact by demoncrats/libretards: it is the responsibility of Congress and not the president to write legislation.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21874 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:45 pm to
He lacks a basic understanding of both the issue and how to make a deal to pass anything.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10897 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Why does he sit back and push for GOPe to get their bill passed?


Because Presidents can't write legislation.

quote:

Why does the Art of the Deal Dealmeister have a hands-off approach on one of his biggest campaign promises and what will likely be signature legislation?


I know it's convenient for you to blame Trump for the lack of progress on the Repeal of Obamacare, but in reality this is the fault of the Republicans in the House and Senate. When it passed in 2009, the Republicans immediately started screaming we gotta stop this, but they had no power to do anything because the Democrats controlled the House and Senate. Which is why such a god awful POS bill like that passed in the first place. Reed and Polisi threatened to go to a simple majority if the Conservatives even attempted to stop them. Which is why no Conservative voted on the bill. The were shut out of the negotiations because as Obama said. "We have the votes to pass this and that's what we are going to do. Conservatives can cone to the table and be a part of history but the time for negotiating is over." (Wow, what a great uniter.)

Fast forward to 2012. Republicans managed to take back the House on promises of fixing the ever growing problem of Obamacare and the people feeling the weight of this bad bill believed them. Unfortunately Hillary Clinton's Benghazi debacle dominated politics and nothing was pushed on Obamacare. Not that it would have made a difference.

Fast forward to the 2014 elections. Conservatives lambasted the democrats by hanging that albatross around Obama and the Democrats necks. The masses were finally tired of getting fricked by this redistribution of wealth by the liberals. Republicans now in control of the House and Senate were in a position to put forth a repeal plan or a fix or a replacement or something. In two years they managed to get 1 bill to Obama which was as expected basically thrown in the trash and ignored.

In 2016, using Obama and the threat of a 3rd term under Hillary as and excuse the conservatives again promised to finally get rid of Obamacare with a Republican controlled House, Senate and White House. The masses bought into it and unthinkable happened and Donald J Trump was elected to the POTUS.

Now finally the POS Obamacare can finally be put to bed and something more logical can be put in it's place.....

eerrrrrrr Well, Ummmmmmmmmmm Uhhhhhhh...

What, Republicans can not even get a bill to Trump to sign and it's Trumps fault???

This is exactly the kind of logic I've come to expect from American voters. Ignorance. It's why we're in the position we're in. Stupid voters voting for stupid people.

Of course Trump campaigned on repealing and replacing Obamacare. It's all the Republicans in Congress have been talking about for 8 years, now with Obama's veto pen and snoopy phone out of the way it could finally happen. Trump wouldl sign the bill. If there was a bill. Why would he not think that they would have their shite together.

Got news for y'all. Republicans NEVER intended to do anything about Obamacare. They just wanted your vote.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15652 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:48 pm to
Because he's letting the legislature (try to) do its thing. Otherwise, people would start calling him a fascist again.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73470 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:58 pm to
Now do one for Bernie supporters.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Little known fact by demoncrats/libretards: it is the responsibility of Congress and not the president to write legislation.


Yeah, but the President and his pulpit of bully can travel around and demand/sell what he wants in the plan. He's great at campaigning. He should campaign.
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