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Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:46 pm to upgrayedd
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The government. That machine is far more than elected officials. Doesn't matter how many you change out. The machine will remain.
Its banks. Those are private. Govt is the disguise but allows us some level of participation. I'm not sure what you proposed but I'm sure that sitting around bitching about the government isn't really helping anything
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:53 pm to weagle99
Because they are illegal substances
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:55 pm to weagle99
Should the government regulate drugs, test to see which ones are safe, and restrict certain ones?
Should the government regulate food, make sure they are free of pesticides, transported properly, and the consumer gets a product that is safe to eat?
Or should there be no government regulations governing restaurants? Should we just trust restaurants will do the right things?
I'd say government has a large role here, but maybe you disagree.
Should the government regulate food, make sure they are free of pesticides, transported properly, and the consumer gets a product that is safe to eat?
Or should there be no government regulations governing restaurants? Should we just trust restaurants will do the right things?
I'd say government has a large role here, but maybe you disagree.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:02 pm to Zach
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Die in the gutter to set an example for the youths
The problem is people won't let him die in the gutter, and the rest of us will pick up the bill at the ER, or the CDU.
Maybe drugs should be legal, but how much would it cost us to deal with the effects? More than it costs now or less?
But it will cost something, we all know that.
That's why I'm a big proponent of states rights. Let's study Colorado or Oregon in ten years or so and see how it worked there. That should prove one way or another what the effects of marijuana legalization are, but it still doesn't tell you what legalizing cocaine, heroin and LSD would do.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:04 pm to Zach
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Booze was prohibited primarily by women. They didn't want their children seeing dad get sloshed and taking up the habit. By legalizing booze it sent the message to lil Johnny that booze was OK.
Don't forget the then new Industrial Revolution and mass production plants run by the oligarchs.
Being drunk is inherently dangerous and hampers worker productivity. The oligarchs supported the women's temperance movement as it was it in their financial interest.
This is some of the same reasoning behind keeping drugs illegal: economic harm, in theory. The nightly national news used to quarterly report on "lost productivity" due to injury and disease including drug and alcohol abuse. That's partly why alcoholism is a disease and drug addiction is a crime.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:18 am to doubleb
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Should the government regulate drugs, test to see which ones are safe, and restrict certain ones?
Should the government regulate food, make sure they are free of pesticides, transported properly, and the consumer gets a product that is safe to eat?
Or should there be no government regulations governing restaurants? Should we just trust restaurants will do the right things?
I'd say government has a large role here, but maybe you disagree.
Its all or nothing with a lot of these folks. All "Govt is bad except for military" is just what many have settled on.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:32 am to weagle99
The alcohol lobby pays a hell of a lot better to congress than does the drug lobby. Notice I didn't say pharmaceuticals. Those frickers pay really well too.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:32 am to Ebbandflow
Go to bed.
But make sure you say your big government rosary and give your confession to your black Jesus, Obama via email, bitch.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:53 am to Errerrerrwere
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But make sure you say your big government rosary and give your confession to your black Jesus, Obama via email, bitch.
Youre either a hilarious troll or one if the most moronic people I've ever read. Your posts are awefulsome
Posted on 9/12/17 at 3:20 am to Ebbandflow
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Youre either a hilarious troll or one if the most moronic people I've ever read. Your posts are awefulsome
Patrick Taylor. 7 pm. Syracuse game. Bring your ANTIFA friends.
ETA 7 pm the Friday before the Syracuse game. No way I miss out on another Greedy Williams INT or Brennan's first TD for your lousy arse.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 3:31 am
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:03 am to weagle99
I think it's referred to as "Legislating Morality",which has never worked.i.e. The prohibition of alcohol.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:46 am to Ebbandflow
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Govt is the disguise but allows us some level of participation. I'm not sure what you proposed but I'm sure that sitting around bitching about the government isn't really helping anything
No, but trusting government is stupid.
The only level of real participation you have is on the very basic low levels of local government. Everything else is an illusion.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:54 am to weagle99
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Why isn't getting high and sitting at your house legal?
It is. Purchasing and/or possessing is illegal. No one in the history of the world has been arrested in their home with nothing in the house.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:59 am to weagle99
Because certain substances in your body may cause you to do things that harm others.
Now, I don't think the government has any business telling you what you can put into your body while at home alone or in the presence of other consenting adults.
But I also have no problem with the government throwing your arse in jail for a long time if you drive or operated heavy machinery while under the influence of hose things. And if you injure or kill someone while under the influence, I think you should be punished with extreme prejudice.
Now, I don't think the government has any business telling you what you can put into your body while at home alone or in the presence of other consenting adults.
But I also have no problem with the government throwing your arse in jail for a long time if you drive or operated heavy machinery while under the influence of hose things. And if you injure or kill someone while under the influence, I think you should be punished with extreme prejudice.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 10:15 am to weagle99
I remember mandatory rinsing with fluoride as a group in a public classroom every day circa 1975. So it's not only what you can't put in your body...
Posted on 9/12/17 at 10:32 am to Haydo
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Because it can be very likely that tax payer dollars will wind up footing the hospital bill. Same reasoning behind being ticketed for not wearing a seat belt. When doing (or not doing) something to yourself can affect others.
Im pretty sure the war on drugs costs a lot more than the igsinifcant increase in hospital costs
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