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re: Why do you think people flocked to Hitler?

Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:46 am to
Posted by 'Boro Tiger
Winnsboro, LA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:46 am to
Like most things it probably a multitude of reasons. I'd suspect it's because of one he was a soldier in World War One. People often love war heroes in politics, not that he was one, but you get the point.

He was also a very passionate speaker and that can often disguise a Message's intent. If someone is that intense and strongly believes in what they're saying well it must be the truth.

Thirdly and probably the most important after the first war Germany was obviously destroyed and he gave them a scapegoat to blame for all their troubles. They now had a cause to rally around and it was passing blame for how poorly their current situation had become because of the victors and Jews.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:59 am to
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We are at the beginning stages. We have REDS in the street and most of america sees that speech is being silenced.

They see the right as not defending those rights.


THAT is where we are at.
Don't be so dramatic.

We have an establishment doing what it does, distract and divide with propaganda and paid provocateurs. We have the Drama Queens (see OP) feeding into it, making much more out of it than there actually is.

quote:

What is the next step?
Grow up. Stop playing into the establishments hands.

Pretty simple, really.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:18 am to
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I'm not sure Hitler ever had a majority.

He had widespread support, though.



Given that there were periods in Weimar Germany where there were as many as 40 political parties and the system was proportional, there were virtually no parties ever getting a majority. The only one that may have were the SPD and I don't think they did either, certainly not after 1929. In 1932/1933 Nazi popularity reached it's electoral zenith. After the Reichstag fire and with Hitler already named Chancellor, they received their highest electoral figures in the March 1933 elections with 44% which allowed them to form a majority coalition with the old conservative DNVP.

The threat of leftist revolution and the persistent leftist violence and extremism of the entire post-WWI era had a huge role to play in Germans turning out for the NSDAP. Contrary to ex post condemnation of the German people, Hitler and the NSDAP didn't run on genocide and war. They did, however, openly run on destroying the Weimar Republic and returning to autocracy, which actually had a mass appeal given that Weimar Germany appeared completely incapable or competent governance and putting down the threat from Communist extremists.

Leftist pukes like Antifa create the conditions for the rise in right wing extremists. Any form of legitimacy given to political violence fundamentally undermines the precarious stability of democratic republics, which apparently the mainstream left doesn't seem to understand.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:14 am to
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Leftist pukes like Antifa create the conditions for the rise in right wing extremists. Any form of legitimacy given to political violence fundamentally undermines the precarious stability of democratic republics, which apparently the mainstream left doesn't seem to understand.


And this happened in Italy, Spain, Germany and Russia.

Name any of those that the general population did not suffer?
Posted by BamaFinland
Espoo, Finland
Member since Oct 2015
2587 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:37 am to
Money
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:46 am to
Hitler - The moustache

Mussolini - his bald head.....and his hats

Franco -I wouldn't put him anywhere in the same league with those two. He used the Germans for his own ends. He was not near the butcher that the other two were although he could be brutal.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:52 am to
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Desperate times in Germany due to tough punishment for WWI. Bringing the people out of poverty and hunger won them over. He then murdered his opposition and no one was left to challenge him as his true intentions became clear.

All of this is true PLUS Hitler was really good at finding a boogie man and blaming all of Germany's problems on the boogie man....the Jews.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:04 am to
I knew an old woman who immigrated here from Spain. She was upper class, Castilian. She said they were worried about communists taking over and seizing property. Franco prevented that. She named her son Franco in his honor.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90552 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:20 pm to
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They made them feel good about themselves?.

And I don't know German but just watching clips Hilter must have been a hell of speaker.




He preached nationalism and German pride and turned the economy around. He was a great speaker and his ministry of propaganda led by Goebbels was extremely effective.

The vast majority of Germans had no clue what Hitler was really doing. He lied to them about everything and kept a tight lid on the governments actions. The people were horrified at what they saw in the camps post war when the allied troops marched them through to show them. They had no idea what they had been supporting
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