re: Why do people in the US want socialism

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Singapore passed them a few years ago. Not sure of the various rankings today and not looking it up.

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I looked it up, and HK was #1. Not that it matters, though, they're both way up there. As long as we're talking about a very free economy.

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The people of HK didn't live in cages.

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I think about 100k people in HK live in cage homes today.

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This isn't 18th century France.

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So your definition of poor is as compared to 18th century France?

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The poor have big screen TV, cell phones, AC and don't even need to work.

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It's clear that you don't even know a poor person, and cannot possibly relate.

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Nope. That's false. Rich people have to spend money or invest. Both = better living conditions for everyone.

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Mostly true, until you come back to reality where everyone does not mean everyone.

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There is none.

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There are plenty, if you choose to open your eyes and mind.

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No, we don't.

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See above.

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I have. Long before I came here.

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It takes a really fricked up interpretation of "free market capitalism" if you think a for-profit military sounds like a good idea.

The promises of capitalism hasn't come true for everyone. There are a lot of people who work, obey the law, and do good things for their community and family but still run into problems due to health issues, accidents, jobs leave their community through no fault of their own and they can't always move to where the jobs are since there are family obligations such as older parents and relatives and preferences to be near family and yet they still get screwed over by the world capitalist economy.

People do get retrained and do get vocation skills and yet when the housing market collapses or the oil prices collapse or go sky high they still get screwed over and they are good hardworking people.

That's why. You have to understand that a lot of people do all the right things you tell them to do and things can still go wrong and they want a society and economy that does not throw them away.

They also realize that capital cares nothing for their living conditions and that capital only cares for further accumulation of capital and any societal benefit is accidental and ancillary and not necessary for capital to accumulate.

You all act like capitalism works for everyone and it doesn't always work that way.

Plus the majority of people in the US want democratic socialism and not communism. You can still own your own business under democratic socialism but you can't do it in a way that destroys your community and country. Most people want a more generous social welfare state but that will mean more taxes and upper-class don't want to pay more in taxes because they see no benefit to them since they have enough money to buy what they want and don't require a social safety next or public goods like schools and environmental protection laws.

The socialism you think people want in the US is not the socialism they want. But to scare people you tell others that is the socialism they want.

“Contrary to what so many good people – out of sheer terror of ‘Communism’ – think, Capitalism is not ‘free enterprise,’ an incentive for success, ‘a chance for all.’ Capitalism is trusts, speculation, parasitical usury. Capitalism is J. P. Morgan, Rothschild’s bank, ripping apart the nations like maddened swine. Capitalism is the frying pan in which culture is rendered down to the grease of money. Following it, as the night to day, is the thrice hotter fire of ‘Communism.’” William Striker

Capitalism is good between the states in the united states of America. It is just not productive between different cultures unless you don't mind losing one culture.

I agree that socialism is bad. So what we need to do is cut out all of the subsidies and tax breaks and make every person and every corporation pay their full freight.