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re: Why do liberals get so upset over abortion?

Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:39 am to
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I don't think we need to be be basing the legality of something based on feelings or religious beliefs.



that's where you're wrong, kiddo
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:39 am to
One of the key platforms of the left is the total absence of personal responsibility/consequences. Abortion might be their favorite tool to avoid responsibility, as 99.999999999% of abortions are done because the lazy piece of shite doesn't want to raise the child they made.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:39 am to
It symbolizes their rebellion against God and His law. They may not know this consciously, but they are suppressing their knowledge in unrighteousness.
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1298 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:40 am to
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Would’ve been tight if your mom decided to have an abortion. One less dip shite leftist in America is a good thing


You do realize over a third of republicans actually support some form of legalized abortion right?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:40 am to
So brave.
Posted by dstarsntigers
Member since Apr 2022
796 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:40 am to
You’re talking to people that push laws making it illegal to destroy turtle eggs but wanna terminate pregnancies even after the baby has been born. They aren’t rational at all.
Posted by dstarsntigers
Member since Apr 2022
796 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:41 am to
Not what I was saying
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 12:51 am
Posted by TxRan2020
Texas
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:41 am to
That’s one sick bitch.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:42 am to
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That would dictate that fetuses are not a form of life. Which is a falsehood considering your existence.


You're making giant logical leaps that are entirely false to try and prove your point. It does not dictate that. It doesn't address it at all, in fact.

Fetuses do not have bodily autonomy. If you think they do you're misunderstanding what a fetus is, or what bodily autonomy is. It's that simple.

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Call it a fetus, a clump of cells, a preemie, or a baby… it is a life form and Attempting to compare which life form is more autonomous, well that’s just plain discriminatory and disappointing.


It's not discriminatory at all. It's just factual. Women have bodily autonomy, fetuses do not. There's not argument to be had here on this.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5601 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:42 am to
I feel like i'm the only person in the US that could care less about abortion.
Seems both sides lose their minds over it.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:42 am to
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Wrong. Why is it that the most uneducated are the first ones to spout nonsense as fact?


Life begins at conception, Cap.
Posted by fjlee90
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:43 am to
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You’re talking to people that push laws making it illegal to destroy turtle eggs but wanna terminate pregnancies even after the baby has been born. They aren’t rational at all.


Can’t have it both ways. It’s an unfortunate dichotomy. There’s murder, and there’s not murder. There’s no sorta murdered.

You can’t dictate that at 36 weeks abortion is murder and autonomy is important, but at 12 weeks abortion is gravy and autonomy is non existent.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79325 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:44 am to
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So brave.



what?

I'm not slighting you. I'd just prefer my religious beliefs dictate answers to most of those questions. And increasingly, I think some people are seeing that objectivity and neutrality isn't an effective system, and are seeing more and more value to grounding those decisions in moral/religious beliefs (regardless of their personal adherence)

But I don't fault you for being wary of the idea
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9654 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:46 am to
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I feel like i'm the only person in the US that could care less about abortion.
Seems both sides lose their minds over it.


It's insane. I'm affected every day by inflation, the border crisis, the rise in crime, etc. Not once did an abortion alter my day.

Laws based on religious beliefs work out wonderfully and have never been abused in the history of mankind.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:46 am to
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I disagree. I'm as right wing as they come but I am not religious.


I would encourage you to look into the Gospel message of Jesus Christ.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:47 am to
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Pettifogger


You know nothing about me. I'm not your kiddo.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13986 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:48 am to
I'm not a fan of abortion, but I understand how life can put you in a tough spot. I just wish Planned Parenthood did all the things they say they do.

"preventive care, including birth control, testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections, and screenings for cervical and other cancers."

The issue is we all know that's not happening.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7857 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:48 am to
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It's not discriminatory at all. It's just factual. Women have bodily autonomy, fetuses do not. There's not argument to be had here on this.


No. Logical leaps. Just logic.

What is a woman but a form of life? The same can be said for fetuses. If a woman, a form of life, has autonomy, why would you treat a fetus, another form of life, any differently?

Why would you advocate to treat one form of life differently from another? It’s a matter of equality. Fairness. It should be applied in all dealings in a civil society.

It’s a very simple fact. It’s just not one that’s convenient to your argument.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9654 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:48 am to
I don't care what your beliefs are but I support your ability to have them.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79325 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:49 am to
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You know nothing about me. I'm not your kiddo.



It's a meme

You sound ancient, so yeah, I'd imagine not
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