re: Why do gays choose to be gay?

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"Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."

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Was truth over 2,000 years ago and is true today. I guess truth is indeed timeless,

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Can you tell me the moment in your life you chose to like women? If someone held a gun to your head right now and forced you to change your attraction from women to men, could you? You're confusing someone's ability to choose whether or not he/she engages in behavior with someone's ability to control why they like a behavior. I can't tell you why I like pasta, I just do. But I have a choice as to whether or not I eat pasta, not to stop liking it.

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From my earliest memories, I always wanted to walk the little girl home from kindergarten in the short dress with the pink ribbon in her hair .

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It's only a matter of time until they go away.

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oh of course. mr religion is back choosing whatever passages fit in with his inherent prejudice.

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Since my "inherent prejudice" is based on the Bible, I'm going to continue quoting scripture (appropriately, might I add) that supports my Biblical worldview.

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i can quote romans and the new testament too. how do these things fit in with the border wall you want to build?

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Border wall? That's random when talking about gays, but so be it.

Your first mistake is that you don't understand the distinction of roles that the civil magistrate has vs. the laity or civilian population. The Bible says that the government has the authority to take lives in the name of justice (Rom. 13:4). Civilians do not have such an authority but are instead told not to repay evil for evil (1 Peter 3:9). Likewise, there are principles that are commanded to individuals that do not apply (as a command) to the governments. Commands for charity to Christians is not a command for the government to force people to give them money to redistribute it (that isn't charity any longer).

Secondly, a border wall is a means to protect the people of the country who erects it. That is a good thing and something the government is responsible for. Even Jerusalem had walls. Walls are one thing but doors are another. The government still has an immigration policy that lets thousands of people in each year (and that will continue, wall or no wall), whether they are refugees or just good people wanting to make a better life here. If we had no limit on who could come in at a given time, eventually this country would be overwhelmed by those who cannot support it and the citizens here would suffer from it (as we do already due to illegal immigration). There needs to be a balance between taking in foreigners who need help and making sure we are not neglecting our citizens.

Now, I'm going to make some brief comments about each of those verses you provided:

Romans 12:13
Where do you see "strangers" there? The verse only speaks to hospitality and it's within the context of helping needing Christians. Even so, this country let's in nearly a million people a year, and that's not including the people who come here for a short stay and then take off again. That's a lot of hospitality!

Matthew 5:10-11
persecuted...for righteousness' sake. Can't leave that out. It's talking about people who are persecuted for Christ's sake (for being Christians). Not sure how that applies to a border wall.

Matthew 25:31-46
This verse is talking about people (not nations) taking care of the poor and needy. You can see that in verses 32 and 33 when Jesus says that the King will separate the sheep from the goats from among the nations. You think Jesus is talking exclusively about government here?

Regardless of that misuse of the text, we as a nation take in over a million legal immigrants a year, and they aren't all starving and needy. Most just want a better place to live.

Luke 3:11
Again, not sure what this has to do with a border wall. This was a command to help those in need as people after the Kingdom of God (we call them "Christians"). A border wall doesn't change that. What it helps prevent is having your cloak stolen so that you don't have one, yourself.

Luke 4:16-21
This was Jesus reading from the scroll of Isaiah to show the people that He was the promised Messiah that was foretold. Not sure how this applies to the border wall considering the spiritual significance of those statements (the gospel accomplished all of those things, spiritually). Jesus' kingdom wasn't of this earth, after all.

Corinthians II 8:13-15
This was a comment to a particular church body that they should emulate another church body by taking care of each other as best as they are able to do for the sake of Jesus. Paul even states in verse eight: "I say this not as a command, but to prove by the earnestness of others that your love also is genuine." It's good for those who have extra to help those who don't, but the Christian ethic is to tithe to God first, then help your family, then help the Church, then help those outside the Church. The wall does nothing to negate this.

Ephesians 2:11-22
Um, this is talking about spiritual aliens and strangers and spiritual citizens. Paul is talking to Gentiles, who were not part of the covenant community of Israel. They didn't have the Prophets, Moses, the covenants with Abraham and the like, and they didn't have the promised Messiah foretold to them. All told, they didn't have the blessings of God. Christ's death removed that separation of Jew and Gentile and now the Gentiles who were not part of the community of God are welcomed in. The wall doesn't do anything to impact this.

Hebrews 11
Abraham obeyed God and was being led to the land God promised him. He was being praised for his faith, not his travel. Again, not sure how this applies since God isn't commanding anyone to travel to the US.

Hebrews 13:1-2
Again, showing hospitality is a good thing, but hospitality was always a temporary thing. No one was being told to take in everyone off the street and provide for all of their needs for the rest of their lives. Hospitality was taking in someone who was cold and hungry, giving them a blanket and some food, and sending them on their way. Definitely not what's going on in our country, yet we still take in millions of people wanting to come here.

James 2:5
Let's finish that quote, too: "has not God chosen those who are poor in the world... to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?" He's talking about not giving favor to rich Christians over poor ones. The whole section is about not showing partiality to others who are in Christ but to treat them all with love and honor. This doesn't apply to the wall or immigration at all.

James 2:14-17
Again, this is talking to Christians who claim to have faith but then neglect to obey the law of God. He goes on to say, "You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works", which is to say that the good works are to flow from faith and that faith is proven by works. He's speaking to Christians, not to government bodies. The government of the US doesn't have faith that it can prove with its works. However, we as a country still provide for millions of people who come here for help or to make their lives better. We do it through legal immigration.

1 John 3:18
Yes, Christians are supposed to love one another by helping those in need when possible. We are doing that as a country already and a wall won't change that.

John 4:7-21
As with the previous verse, Christians are commanded to love one another just as Christ loved us and died for us. This is a command to Christians as individuals and more holistically as a Church body. This isn't a command to governments to allow anyone and everyone to come across its borders without question.

Satan tells them to be gay

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Do you like brussel sprouts? If so, is there something wrong with you since others don't like them? If not, is it due to the way they taste or it it purely a choice because you don't like little green round things?

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I certainly wouldn't want them shoved up my arse!

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Well, for one, it stops people from doing simply whatever they want with absolutely no consequences whatsoever insofar as guilt goes. So there's that.

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No it doesn't.

Even a societal death penalty doesn't stop people from committing murder.

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The burden of proof is always on the claimant. No one has to prove a negative.

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So you don't claim it's a choice.

That's good.

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I like how imbeciles just assume that absent religion (which has influenced, funded and otherwise driven political, social and scientific progress as much as any other entity or concept), we'd still have all the good things religion sparked, with none of the bad.

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There's no way of knowing where we'd be without religion. What we do know is all the fricked up things that have been done solely because of one religion or another.

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There's no way of knowing where we'd be without religion. What we do know is all the fricked up things that have been done solely because of one religion or another.

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And we also know that religion is a huge driving force, perhaps the most predominate driving force, in almost everything we find valuable (art, education, humanitarianism, architecture, social mores and codes, politics, historical recordkeeping, etc.).