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Why Democrats are so confident
Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:59 pm
Will the GOP change before it's too late? Can it become more inclusive? I read an article earlier today that mentioned the huge inroads the Dems are even making with the Cubans.
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It was a revealing convergence Monday when the five-member conservative Supreme Court majority delivered the Hobby Lobby contraception decision even as President Obama announced that House Republicans had officially shelved immigration reform.
Both disputes reaffirmed the GOP's identity as the champion of the forces most resistant to the profound demographic and cultural dynamics reshaping American life—and Democrats as the voice of those who most welcome these changes.
And both clashes captured a parallel shift: While Republicans took the offense on most cultural arguments through the late 20th century, now Democrats from Obama on down are mostly pressing these issues, confident that they represent an expanding majority of public opinion.
Veteran pollster Stanley B. Greenberg captures this almost unprecedented Democratic assurance when he declares flatly: "Republicans are on the losing side of all of these trends."
Beyond contraception and immigration, the parties are escalating their conflicts over a broad suite of issues that divide the electorate along cultural lines, including gun control, gay rights, abortion, and climate change (which politically pivots on trust in science). Combined, these confrontations are stamping the GOP as what I've called a "Coalition of Restoration" primarily representing older, white, religiously devout, and nonurban voters who fear that hurtling change is undermining traditional American values. Democrats in turn are championing a younger, more urbanized, diverse, and secular "Coalition of Transformation" that welcomes the evolution in America's racial composition and cultural mores.
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This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:01 pm to Toddy
They're bussing them to republican states around the country by the bus loads.
It definitely helps their numbers.
It definitely helps their numbers.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:02 pm to Toddy
Yet look at each party's purported frontrunners
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:02 pm to Toddy
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The risk for Republicans is that on each of these conflicts, polls show Obama's position represents majority opinion today—and that majority will likely grow because the groups that generally support his views most are increasing as a share of voters."
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:04 pm to Toddy
quote:Link?
The risk for Republicans is that on each of these conflicts, polls show Obama's position represents majority opinion today
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:04 pm to Toddy
Toddy, the problem is that minorities in America are by and large very economically vulnerable. They are not turned away by the GOP, but rather attracted to the economic security offered by the democrats. Unless the GOP completely changes its economic ideology, nothing will change.
At the same time though, democrats are really toxic among white voters. This isn't good in midterm elections. Thus, we will probably have a political landscape in the next few decades where republicans control congress and there is a democratic president.
At the same time though, democrats are really toxic among white voters. This isn't good in midterm elections. Thus, we will probably have a political landscape in the next few decades where republicans control congress and there is a democratic president.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:06 pm to Toddy
Toddy, I think you will be singing a different tune the first Tuesday night this November.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
All it has to do is not go to shite will all dems for another 10 years until I quit then I don't give a shite.
If younger people are too stupid to think for themselves then I am like MArie Antionette - Let them east shite.
If younger people are too stupid to think for themselves then I am like MArie Antionette - Let them east shite.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:08 pm to Toddy
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Dems are even making with the Cubans.
I doubt this, I work with a few Cubans and everyone of them hate Obama. Is it because he is democrat or black?
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:08 pm to Toddy
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Why Democrats are so confident
Because the American people are so apathetic.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:08 pm to gthog61
I read these same exact articles in the 1980s. Democrats were supposedly a dying party, etc, etc.
Things change, always. Even in 2004, people were claiming the Democratic party was dead.
Things change, always. Even in 2004, people were claiming the Democratic party was dead.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Toddy, the problem is that minorities in America are by and large very economically vulnerable. They are not turned away by the GOP, but rather attracted to the economic security offered by the democrats. Unless the GOP completely changes its economic ideology, nothing will change.
I think some of y'all like to tell yourselves this to excuse the reason the GOP is lily white. Why, pray tell, are the Asians, without doubt the most economically successful race in this country, trending heavily Democratic? You have to look no further than the 2008 presidential election to see this.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:10 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Yea the Cuban claim is bullcrap. Obama did well with young cubans because Obama is a once in a lifetime phenomena.
I guffaw at the thought of Hag Hillary winning young cubans.
I guffaw at the thought of Hag Hillary winning young cubans.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Unless the GOP completely changes its economic ideology, nothing will change.
But then what's the point of having more than one major party?
You are right, though, the battle is not about race (that's used to stir up voters), its about entitlements.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:12 pm to La Place Mike
quote:Are these the polls that they are using?
The risk for Republicans is that on each of these conflicts, polls show Obama's position represents majority opinion today
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A recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, for instance, found that Americans backed the contraception mandate by a 53-41 percent majority.
Americans could include both Democrats and Republicans.
quote:Again Americans could include both Republicans and Democrats. Name one Republican that is for discrimination against gay workers.
Likewise, in a Gallup Poll last fall, more than three-fifths of Americans supported a ban on employers discriminating against gay workers,
That article is garbage.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:12 pm to Toddy
quote:Asians are an insignificant racial group except on the west coast. They are trending democrat because the old ones who remember socialism are dying out. Asians are concentrated in California, so that also explains it.
I think some of y'all like to tell yourselves this to excuse the reason the GOP is lily white. Why, pray tell, are the Asians, without doubt the most economically successful race in this country, trending heavily Democratic? You have to look no further than the 2008 presidential election to see this.
Let's also not forget that GHWB THUMPED Bill Clinton with Asian voters. The problem is that those asian voters are all dead now.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:12 pm to Toddy
Honestly, the Republicans are really fricking themselves with the Hispanics. Their values don't align with the democrats, but the Republicans are doing the immigration card and the democrats are playing the "we love the poor" card. That's the only reason why they're there instead of the Republican side. The Republicans need to stop the bullshite and embrace the Hispanic community if they are to survive.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:12 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I doubt this, I work with a few Cubans and everyone of them hate Obama. Is it because he is democrat or black?
It's mainly because some Democrats are saying it's time to stop the trade embargo with Cuba. The younger Cubans are overwhelmingly in favor of this. I have to agree. This damn embargo has been going on for fifty years and obviously hasn't worked.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:13 pm to Toddy
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Will the GOP change before it's too late? Can it become more inclusive? I read an article earlier today that mentioned the huge inroads the Dems are even making with the Cubans.
Yeah, won't it be so cool when hipsters like Obama and his crowd have totally destroyed the economy, flooded us with illegals and there are no more jobs for people graduating from high school or college. Then all the hipsters with no jobs who are living with their uptight old white parents can sit around and tweet about how wonderful things are. Won't that be cool!
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