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re: Why are theories on evolution, climate change, etc sacrosanct,
Posted on 4/1/17 at 10:38 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 4/1/17 at 10:38 am to DawgsLife
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Did not mean to insinuate that at all. I would not be at all surprised, however, if some basic, accepted tenet was overturned and shown to be absolutely false.
I would.
"Absolutely false" suggests some radical misunderstanding...and I don;t think there's simply any room for that possibility given just how many fields so perfectly intertwine with the theory of evolution. It's crazy how many fields line up and how many things would have to be wrong...and I mean WAY wrong, for it to be overturned in some radical way.
Tweaks...sure. Like going from the idea that the earth was a sphere to measuring it with greater precision and learning it's actually bigger at the equator, etc...but we simply know far too much to find out it's not generally what we've known now for 150 years.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:09 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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They're only like that to ivory tower academics. I love how they claim there's no controversy about evolution when in the real world it's about a 50-50 split.
:rotflmao:
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:17 am to GeauxTigerTM
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"Absolutely false" suggests some radical misunderstanding...and I don;t think there's simply any room for that possibility given just how many fields so perfectly intertwine with the theory of evolution. It's crazy how many fields line up and how many things would have to be wrong...and I mean WAY wrong, for it to be overturned in some radical way.
Ok. last response in this thread...but....you are basing that based upon the opinion that we are so advanced scientifically, that there could be no BIG mistakes. I mean, we just have too much knowledge and basis that if there were big mistakes they could be found out. however, every generation of minds feels this way. Why? because we are far more advanced and know a whole lot more than they had 100 years ago. Or 50 years ago. But, there will be so much more information that comes out in the next 20-30 years that it will dwarf what we know today. Our perceptions of how the world acts will change dramatically. there is no way man knows 1/1000th of everything. When our knowledge changes our understanding changes. When our understanding changes everything we thought we knew changes.
It's going to happen because it always has happened.
As I said, I doubt (Hope) I don't even check back to this thread...my last post regardless.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 2:37 am to bmy
Okay I was a little off, but I knew it was somewhere around there. Among Americans, its approximately 58-42% in favor of belief in evolution. All I'm saying is that is by definition a controversial issue. You can't just say "there's no controversy" when 4/10 Americans see it the other way.
Gallup Poll
Gallup Poll
This post was edited on 4/2/17 at 2:39 am
Posted on 4/2/17 at 3:33 am to ChineseBandit58
Cool thing genome advances is that they are clearly pointing to a genealogical Eve. This fits perfectly with the way I understand evolution, Christianity and science.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:56 am to ForeverEllisHugh
4/10 Americans are idiots. There is no single scrap of evidence for any other explanation.
The fact that a bunch of idiots don't accept something doesn't make it controversial.
The fact that a bunch of idiots don't accept something doesn't make it controversial.
This post was edited on 4/2/17 at 5:58 am
Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:36 am to DawgsLife
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Ok. last response in this thread...but....you are basing that based upon the opinion that we are so advanced scientifically, that there could be no BIG mistakes. I mean, we just have too much knowledge and basis that if there were big mistakes they could be found out. however, every generation of minds feels this way. Why? because we are far more advanced and know a whole lot more than they had 100 years ago. Or 50 years ago. But, there will be so much more information that comes out in the next 20-30 years that it will dwarf what we know today. Our perceptions of how the world acts will change dramatically. there is no way man knows 1/1000th of everything. When our knowledge changes our understanding changes. When our understanding changes everything we thought we knew changes.
All you did was repeat the assertion that since science is self correcting and has had times when there have been huge leaps forward reversing older "known" things that it's likely that will happen with everything we currently "know." That's not an argument.
There is absolutely no evidence for that...and again, there are variations in being "wrong." If you think that it is equally as wrong thinking the earth is flat and learning it's spherical as it is thinking it's spherical only to learn that it's SLIGHTLY bulged at the equator, than you're wronger than both. We're just not going to find out tomorrow that the earth is ACTUALLY a square. You understand that...but then you also are almost certainly not dogmatically thinking that earth needs to be something other than spherical to meet up with a world view you have,.
We're also NOT going to find out that evolution, on the whole, is completely wrong. Will we continue to learn more and more about the intricacies? Sure! Do we know tons more than Darwin ever dreamed of as we've studied biology over the past 150 years? You betcha! But, we simply have too many varying disciplines that line up...chemistry, geology, biology, etc that all point to an ancient earth with evolution leading to speciation for it to be something else entirely. None of those facts are dependent upon whether or not people WANT to believe them.
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