re: Why are lefties condemning President Trump for avoiding the Vietnam war?

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Were you opposed to the Vietnam war when it was happening like all the lefties back then were?

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Most of this boards parents where children during Vietnam.

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So why are lefties on this board who weren't born until after the Vietnam war was over condemning President Trump because he did what their lefty forefathers wanted him to do?

I don't know, Dawg. So far you are the only poster that protested the Vietnam war.

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Why are lefties condemning President Trump for avoiding the Vietnam war?

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Because Trump is a bitch

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Then you are saying everyone who avoided serving in the Vietnam war is a bitch.

Well, I don't know. I did serve in Iraq so I doubt I'd have been a war protester then. No way to tell, though. I didn't grow up in that era.

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If Rust Belt Democrats didn't pull the lever for Trump he would not be in office.

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Some people need to learn to follow the post strings. I'll help you out this one time:

DawgFaninCA said:

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It wasn't conservatives who voted President Trump into office.

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And then I said:

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If conservatives didnt pull the lever for Trump he would not be in office.

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And then you said:

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If Rust Belt Democrats didn't pull the lever for Trump he would not be in office.

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You see how you are all in the Kool Aid and don't know the flavor?

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During the Vietnam war, lefties praised anyone who did whatever they had to do to avoid being sent to Vietnam so why are they now condemning President Trump for doing exactly what they wanted him to do back then?

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It doesn't make a lick of sense...it is painfully obvious that the GOP hates...and I mean hates...them some Vietnam veterans....very few GOPers could have been bothered to go and most got a deferment from their daddies contacts...meanwhile democrats like Max Cleland, John Kerry, John Murtha.......thats just off the top of my head....have been villified by the folks in the GOP who didn't go and even poor John McCain is now a bad guy for having gotten caught...why would the left still be making anything of it....it is just one of many things about the GOP which reveal their inability to be honest....

The reason that GOPers hate Vietnam Vets is because we had a perfect record until then....Donald Trump expressed the majority opinion of the right when he said that McCain was only a hero because he got caught and he (Trump) liked people who didn't get caught....the GOP not only likes those who didn't get caught more than those who did but they also like winners better and Vietnam Vets weren't winners at war....

Have y'all ever really supported a candidate who was a Vietnam vet? I know you ain't had many because most of your guys recieved deferments and what not or kept Charlie out of Mobile, Alabama...

Here is the one thing that you need to know about the right and Vietnam Veterans and how low the right holds them...there ain't a soul on the right who doesn't beleive that there weren't Vietnam Veterans spit on when the returned from Vietnam...yet other than anecdotes there is not a speck of evidence to support this myth...not a single person was ever arrested for beating some spitting hippies arse or, more importantly, there is not a single shred of evidence of any spitting hippies needing medical attention for having spit on a returning veteran...yet the right believes this with all their heart...which in fact what they are suggesting is that Vietnam veterans were a bunch of pussies because not a single one of them put a spitting hippie in the hospital...that is much more insulting than insinuating that it is possible to get a purple heart for a paper cut.....

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At virtually every level, and you're an idiot if you think otherwise.

The rank just defines what kind of Republican.

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bullshite...and in fact only white enlisted men are Republicans by and large....and white enlisted women....Officers are predominantly moderate democrats....the higher their rank the less moderate....and the piles of Black, Asian and Hispanic enlisted people are largely Democrats....about the same as the general population.


I can honestly say that I don't know a military office who is overtly conservative or a republican...I know a bunch who are very loud about being democrats though...and I deal with LOTS of military officers....

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We have been over this, republicans start wars democrats fight them.

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Are you high? The combat arms MOS's are predominantly white middle class Republicans.

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During the Vietnam war, lefties praised anyone who did whatever they had to do to avoid being sent to Vietnam so why are they now condemning President Trump for doing exactly what they wanted him to do back then?

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It doesn't make a lick of sense...

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Then you are nuts.

I was in the local chapter of SDS when I was at UGA and I went to several protests including the March on Washington.

All the lefties I knew were telling everyone eligible for the draft to do anything they could to avoid serving.

That's when people began burning their draft cards to make a public stand against the Vietnam war.

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...it is painfully obvious that the GOP hates...and I mean hates...them some Vietnam veterans....very few GOPers could have been bothered to go and most got a deferment from their daddies contacts...meanwhile democrats like Max Cleland, John Kerry, John Murtha.......thats just off the top of my head....have been villified by the folks in the GOP who didn't go...

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I don't remember Max Cleland or John Murtha but I do remember that John Kerry wasn't vilified until after he threw his Purple Heart away to protest the war.

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and even poor John McCain is now a bad guy for having gotten caught...

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Meh, I don't know of a single GOPer besides President Trump who says McCain is a bad guy and even President Trump wasn't really being serious.

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why would the left still be making anything of it....it is just one of many things about the GOP which reveal their inability to be honest....

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The person being dishonest is you.

Are you really going to claim that the Left didn't tell people to avoid serving in the Vietnam war any way they could and praised those people who did avoid it?

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The reason that GOPers hate Vietnam Vets is because we had a perfect record until then....Donald Trump expressed the majority opinion of the right when he said that McCain was only a hero because he got caught and he (Trump) liked people who didn't get caught....the GOP not only likes those who didn't get caught more than those who did but they also like winners better and Vietnam Vets weren't winners at war....

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Fake news.

The GOP supported the war and the soldiers who served in it.

They just hated the way the war was being fought. They wanted to fight it to win not to fight it half-assed like it was being fought.

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Have y'all ever really supported a candidate who was a Vietnam vet?

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Don't you remember? The GOP nominated John McCain as their candidate for POTUS.

Duh.

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Here is the one thing that you need to know about the right and Vietnam Veterans and how low the right holds them...there ain't a soul on the right who doesn't beleive that there weren't Vietnam Veterans spit on when the returned from Vietnam...yet other than anecdotes there is not a speck of evidence to support this myth...not a single person was ever arrested for beating some spitting hippies arse or, more importantly, there is not a single shred of evidence of any spitting hippies needing medical attention for having spit on a returning veteran...yet the right believes this with all their heart...which in fact what they are suggesting is that Vietnam veterans were a bunch of pussies because not a single one of them put a spitting hippie in the hospital...that is much more insulting than insinuating that it is possible to get a purple heart for a paper cut.....

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I never spit on a Vietnam vet when they came home and I don't know of any "hippies" who did but I know several of my friends in SDS did.

If you weren't alive at the time or not old enough to know what was going on at that time then don't tell me who was there and involved in the protests what I need to know about what was happening back then and what the right wingers were doing.