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Who’s buying: An EMP attack by North Korea could shut down the US power grid and kill '90%

Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10274 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:05 am

Daily mail link below:


LINK

Who here buys that 90% of Americans would be killed within a year of having no electricity?

Those in a hospital or hose neeeding drugs that can’t be produced I get. But 90% come on man.

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:07 am to
The 90% part is bullshite.


Noko busting our grid is 100% possible.


Or at least Homeland is telling Emergency Planners it's possible.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:09 am to
I’m having trouble buying that the North Koreans have a delivery system and a nuke reliable enough to pull off such an attack.

They may launch missiles and attempt to set off bombs to cause the pulse but their track record is spotty at best. And if they try and fail, the return fire from us will likely ensure they don’t get another chance.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:10 am to
You can't EMP the entire U.S., especially North Korea.

An EMP on a major city would have the same effect as a pretty bad natural disaster. And while that city was recovering as electrical components are being restored North Korea is being made of glass.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:11 am to
Nah, Tesla would deliver battery packs to all of the liberal bastions so that would save more than 10%. They better hope he's better at delivering on those than he is with delivering promised vehicle figures though.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:13 am to
It would take a series of EMPs to do it, likely targeting LA, NYC, and possibly somewhere like Chicago.

And even then, they would still be banking on the fact that a huge grid goes down to cause a cascade taking out a region of the US such as the northeast blackout of the mid-2000s.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146906 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:13 am to
Some people can't live of the land. Imagine there are no grocery stores, shortage of gas.
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
7667 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:13 am to
not me and i posted why in the other thread.

it would take many hits across the country to do so. all 3 grids are seperated by a ac/dc/ac interconnect and if one gets trashed the other two will be fine and will be able to transmit power to the failed system until generation there can be restored.

one or two EMP can trash a local chunk of a grid but will not and cannot take down an entire grid.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4473 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:15 am to
Not buying it. Even if an EMP was successful in knocking out a major portion or all of our electrical grid, many who were raised in South LA and the South in general who hunt/fish etc. will do just fine IMO. Lots of small farmers and people who could easily if required be self sufficient.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18005 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Noko busting our grid is 100% possible.


Not quite. They could damage small portions of the grid but widescale damage is not possible. They only way they can take down the grid is if they nuked the entirety of the USA at once.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:23 am to
Is there even a viable delivery system (non-nuke) for an effective EMP attack?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:39 am to
The key to and effective emp attack, besides the nuke is the hight of the explosion above the US. Hundreds of miles above the US, I think we have a good shot of knocking down a limited number of incoming ICBMs.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45779 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51664 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:52 am to
Popular Mechanics calls bullshite as well.

The most important part of the article...

quote:

Back to The Hill article, which claims an EMP attack by North Korea would kill "9 of 10 Americans by starvation and societal collapse." The first clue that something is amiss with this claim is that, if you trace the link provided in the article, it cites the words of Congressman Roscoe Bartlett, who describes a novel he had read called One Second After.

Bartlett was so spooked by this novel that after he left Congress he moved into the woods and became a survivalist, where he spends his days "cutting logs, tending gardens and painting walls." And just to be clear, the claim that North Korea could kill 90 percent of the American people was directly pulled from a science fiction novel.


I added the underline and bold emphasis.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

The claim that North Korea could kill 90 percent of the American people was literally pulled from a science fiction novel


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64366 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:02 am to
Those with stock interest in the MiC and idiots.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7328 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Even if an EMP was successful in knocking out a major portion or all of our electrical grid, many who were raised in South LA and the South in general who hunt/fish etc. will do just fine IMO. Lots of small farmers and people who could easily if required be self sufficient.


Not when everyone and everyone's brother is trying find a food source. Not to mention just getting to a spot to fish or hunt will be an issue since your vehicle's electronics would be fried. The few folks that live in extremely rural areas that are already somewhat self sufficient may be better off for a little while. I dont think NK is capable of doing damage on a nationwide scale but if the entire power grid was knocked out by some event no I dont think anyone would be fine for long.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:44 am to
Which is it?

They can not lob a missile past Japan?

They can send a nuclear payload into outer fricking space?

Big difference.
Posted by RoadTrucker
Member since Oct 2017
73 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:49 am to
The fear is them launching this off a submarine
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6623 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Some people can't live of the land. Imagine there are no grocery stores, shortage of gas
Most folks I know would be lost trying to get by. They're lost after a 'cane when power goes out.
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