re: White House says Trump to sign broadband privacy repeal

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You're so FOS. If you think Your ISP, can't see where you go, or for how long then I have ocean front property in TN to Sell you.

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Where did I say your ISP can't see where you go? I even fricking specifically said they could you idiot.

What I said they can't do is see what you're doing there assuming you're using HTTPS (which just about all major websites use now, and must do if they're PCI compliant)

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Do you understand how trivial that network is if you're not logged in to your Google account?

I can clear the cookies in my browser and Google's "analytic" ad network suddenly has no effect and no personalization profile of my activity - because it's based on my previous habits, which I can control. If I install something like Ghostery, I don't have to worry about it at all.

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And you are in the vast, VAST minority of people who A) know how to do that and B) actually do it.

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Unless you're using a VPN, or visiting a site with HTTPs enabled (which I wish would come to this site), they'll have access to your full behavior profile.

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And how many major websites are not forcing HTTPS these days? Sports message boards withstanding. I mean I guess Verizon could make money selling whatever dumb shite the Poli board is discussing that particular day.

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Then maybe the ISPs should build out their own ad network and media sites. No one is stopping them from doing that - they're just not willing to invest in something like that. They would rather engage in lobbying efforts to "rebrand" themselves into an advertising company with the likes of Google and Facebook, which they're not.

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Irrelevant. ISPs should not be subjected to more stringent privacy rules. EVERYONE should fall under the same privacy rules.

I'm actually 100% for the FCC rule that was revoked. However I'm not for it being applied to one group and not another which inherently gives a competitive advantage.

PIA for the win

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Eventually you will reach an understanding of why big tech wanted to muscle out the ISPs

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Not everbody can be such an expert on everything like you.

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Its the same damn nonsensical thinking that gave us Obamacare

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What?

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Every IP has a shelf life before it expires and then is used by another person.

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Wow, dude? Your ISP doesn't have a log of that?

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By definition, your ISP knows your IP address (they assigned it to you) and they know where that IP address (which access node / interface) that IP address is attached to. They also know that you are using a VPN, and if they want to know, they know what kind of VPN it is.

They don’t need to use any special software to know this - their router that is your access gateway knows this by design in order to be able to route the correct traffic to & from your devices.

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Knowing you are using a vpn and knowing where you are tunneling too and what server and proxies you are going through are not the same thing.

Thats the whole point of encryption.

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What?

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Because a service exist in the world, its my right to have it!! And the govt should force people to provide it, the way I want it, and not expect me to pay the actual cost of it

Otherwise known as entitlement

I get the counter point to big tech and how rules should apply to both. HOWEVER, there's plenty of sites that don't use an encrypted connection that I don't want monitored.

Also, ISP's are so anti-consumer. I'm for anything that sticks it to ISPs. F*CK them.