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White House readies order on withdrawing from NAFTA

Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:15 am
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:15 am
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The Trump administration is considering an executive order on withdrawing the U.S. from NAFTA, according to two White House officials.

A draft order has been submitted for the final stages of review and could be unveiled late this week or early next week, the officials said. The effort, which still could change in the coming days as more officials weigh in, would indicate the administration’s intent to withdraw from the sweeping pact by triggering the timeline set forth in the deal.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:16 am to
Oh man, that's heavy
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:18 am to
From which state will the liberal judge who tries to block this order hail from?

Accepting bets now.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:19 am to
This is great news! I took a class in college on globalization. The entire class was centered on NAFTA and it is the root of many evils and we need to get out of it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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98775 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:22 am to
Ho Lee shite!!!!

Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:22 am to
But the tuna!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:23 am to
Holy moly
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:23 am to
quote:

From which state will the liberal judge who tries to block this order hail from?
Hawaii?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:23 am to
You're going to see Canada and Mexico suddenly become a lot more agreeable and palatable in whatever disputes may be in the news cycle from now on.
Posted by jb4
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:24 am to
This will piss off donors
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:24 am to
Does the President have the power to withdraw from NAFTA via executive order? Shouldn't that be a congress decision?

The 1984 Trade and Tariff Act gave the president authority to negotiate free trade agreements, but congress still had to approve the agreement. Shouldn't that require congress to back out of the agreement? Trump can sign all the papers he wants to, but if he doesn't have the legal power to enact something then it doesn't mean anything.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 11:27 am
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:24 am to
Washington State
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

This will piss off donors


Nah...it's one of the things he ran on.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:27 am to
quote:

From which state will the liberal judge who tries to block this order hail from?

Accepting bets now.


Goin' back to Cali, Cali, Cali...


Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Does the President have the power to withdraw from NAFTA via executive order? Shouldn't that be a congress decision?

Article 2205 has been bandied about with the understanding that Trump could withdraw unilaterally. I'm sure there's a judge somewhere that would disagree.

Sauce
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:32 am to
How do they define 'parties'?

If they mean member nations, then the congress who ratified the treaty should have to nullify it.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 11:33 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41675 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:38 am to
No idea. Trump used that article in at least one stump speech during the campaign to justify pulling out of NAFTA.

I believe the original agreement was signed by the President and ratified by Congress but not sure if Congress has to be involved to pull out as long as there is sufficient notice made by the party leaving.

I assume this will go to court to decide if Trump can do this on his own. Even if he can, I'm sure there will be some judge who won't like it and will rule against him.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99001 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:41 am to
So far we've got Hawaii at 2-1, Washington State at 3-2, and California at 5-3. I'm going to take a semi-longshot and bet on Maine at 7-2.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:41 am to
quote:

From which state will the liberal judge who tries to block this order hail from?


That's the trouble with using EO's to get around Congress. They are easily blocked/tied up in court.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:45 am to
It's almost like all the judges think he is trying to abuse his power
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