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Which has a greater likelihood of happening to a young black male

Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:43 pm
Being brutalized by a policemen or being raised in a fatherless home?
And if one has a greater effect on the child's chances for a successful upbringing than the other, why is only one addressed?
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:44 pm to
Neither.

Being scrambled by mother.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:44 pm to
They won't address fatherless home because that's admitting a total cultural failure
Posted by LsuNav
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:45 pm to
Who is they?
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Who is they?



The Russians
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:46 pm to
The left
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:48 pm to
you ever think cops extrajudicially killing black men has something to do with creating fatherless homes?

i mean it ain't many, but it's a start
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:49 pm to
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you ever think cops extrajudicially killing black men has something to do with creating fatherless homes?


Was this a serious post?
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:51 pm to
yes
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:52 pm to
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you ever think cops extrajudicially killing black men has something to do with creating fatherless homes?


No. I think kids are raised in fatherless homes, left without proper supervision and guidance, and then encouraged by their peers to disrespect authority figures.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Being brutalized by a policemen or being raised in a fatherless home?
And if one has a greater effect on the child's chances for a successful upbringing than the other, why is only one addressed?


When one is a violent illegal act perpetrated under the color of authority by people paid for by the collective it is the one that "we" have the most direct control over.

I do agree we need to address the social and cultural problems that feed the other issue as well.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:11 pm to
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When one is a violent illegal act perpetrated under the color of authority by people paid for by the collective it is the one that "we" have the most direct control over.


So the black community has more direct control over changing police behavior than their own?
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:15 pm to
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you ever think cops extrajudicially killing black men has something to do with creating fatherless homes?



Nah.

quote:

Hi, I'm Travis Henry. I Fathered at Least 11 Children by 10 Different Women. Then, I Was Sentenced to Prison for Cocaine Trafficking.


Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:21 pm to
this is the problem.

You cannot have intelligent debate, if one side is lacking the requirements.....
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25657 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:30 pm to
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So the black community has more direct control over changing police behavior than their own?


No but "we" do. "We" have an obligation as citizens to "force" the end of crimes committed under the color of authority directly. I can only indirectly aid in the change of black culture and socio-economic conditions the same as I can only indirectly impact the culture and socio-economic conditions that cause meth to be a problem in Livingston.

Just because the black population has a cultural problem we should not use that as an excuse to turn our backs on violent illegal acts against them. Just because one problem might be more widespread than the other is no excuse for overlooking it especially when it is easier for us to address more directly.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:32 pm to
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you ever think cops extrajudicially killing black men has something to do with creating fatherless homes?


Except this doesn't happen.

Now go away and let the adults talk.
Posted by Preauxpofol
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:38 pm to
Being murdered by one of his "bruthas"
Posted by Preauxpofol
Member since Sep 2017
169 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:39 pm to
I'm not turning my back. I'll all for stopping blacks from continually committing violent acts against everyone
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:41 pm to
A black male has a greater chance of going to jail then he does of his parents still being together on his 18th bday.


That is sad and nothing to make fun of.

Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Being brutalized by a policemen or being raised in a fatherless home? 


Feels like a straw man, but ill play along.

Fatherless home is more likely to happen. Unlike the former it can be caused multiple ways

The mom slept with a man and never married

OR the mom married the man, things went south in the marriage, and the divorced mom is now taking care of the kid.

The reason we go after police is the same reason doctors lose their license for malpractice or soldiers get court martial for bad behavior. Police (regardless of the parties involved) are held to a higher standard as per their position of authority.

Ill be the first to say some police shootings are justified. But some are not and if caught planting evidence , people should not run to their defense.
And being pulled over simply based on skin color or "perceived guilt without cause" is not the best action.

I keep a camera in my vehicle for this exact reason.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 2:07 pm
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