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When did Americans begin to swat away from America First?

Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:32 am
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35808 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:32 am
Growing up in the Deep South I personally never saw this. We ate American raised beef, chicken and crops. Shopped at local businesses and bought American made products especially automobiles.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:35 am to
When we went global trading for cheaper goods.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35808 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:37 am to
It seems both political parties are to blame for this
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10249 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:38 am to
2008 with the inauguration of a President with the middle name Hussein.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:41 am to
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It seems both political parties are to blame for this


Well sure they are - at the request of the American consumer.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:42 am to
I'd say the 90s. Having a POTUS that put China ahead of us was the real start. During Clinton's administration, the Chinese once remarked the WH was like dropping coins for service. We got them into the WTO and received really nothing from it.
Posted by silverstreak02
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2013
970 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:43 am to
When greed took over our culture

You can't bitch that your factories close down while you're buying the cheap shite from China at Walmart
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:44 am to
Hussein was a wolf in sheep clothing. Many of us saw it, but the majority didn't. Human nature seems to prefer doubling down on stupid rather than to admit their own error. So they all wanted their boy to succeed, even though it's been common knowledge that he hates America.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:47 am to
The question now is, are the American people willing to pay more for an item produced here in the states in knowing that it helps our overall economy or do they just want the cheaper stuff from overseas while keeping their fingers crossed that eventually it doesn't wreck our economy in the long run?
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35808 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:49 am to
I think we will it it means more jobs opening in the US for American workers.
Posted by TheRodFather
Member since Sep 2014
619 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:49 am to
When the Internet starting fawning over everything the le glorious Sweden and Europe did and insisting we emulate them.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:51 am to
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You can't bitch that your factories close down while you're buying the cheap shite from China at Walmart


Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:52 am to
There is a fine juggle that needs to be played when it comes to intl trade. Yes, we want our goods. The cheaper we can get them the better. But if it involves shipping US jobs overseas I think it is a net loss. We lose the economic driver of having those citizens making money, spending money, and paying taxes.

However, for goods we import that were never based here in the US or created here then I have no problem with the free trade of those items.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:54 am to
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I think we will it it means more jobs opening in the US for American workers.


That's my hope. I'd be willing to pay more for a pair of shoes, tvs, etc. made here in knowing that the person making those items are paying income taxes to help support this country. We will not be able to survive economically when we become a bigger country of takers and not makers.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:58 am to
Workers of the World unite!
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:58 am to
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Growing up in the Deep South I personally never saw this. We ate American raised beef, chicken and crops. Shopped at local businesses and bought American made products especially automobiles.


I don't know how old you are but as soon as Germany started exporting VW beetles we started buying them like there was no tomorrow....in the mid 70's we started buying Japanese cars and said things like "unions are obsolete" and "I have no obligation to buying things made by over paid Americans"...and technology made it possible to take us at our word.

There was also the element of folks who had shat their own beds in the industrial NE and Mid west by making outrageous demands and then invading the south when their employers moved from the rust belt to the sunbelt to avoid those demands and the same people who made them in Illinois never said a mumbling word when they relocated to Birmingham and Atlanta at less pay....and then technology allowed their jobs in the south to go to even lower paid people all over the world.


Outside of Union members I have never known anyone who was "America First"...and I have never known many union members who were that way really...they may drive a Ford to work to avoid having the doors of their wife's toyota welded shut but their wife is still driving a Toyota.


Trump will never impose the tarifs he ran on but the cat is out of the bag....working people have risen up and will demand their pound of flesh and the next politician looking to get elected will provide that pound of flesh to us....what we are witnessing here and around the globe is the venting of frustration of working people who are sick and tired of being stressed and broke and having no future. Conservatism, austerity and free markets are as dead as the democratic party....and good riddance to bad rubbish....it is a brave new world and Keynes was right!!!
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22169 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:01 am to
After the government decided to plant the narrative to sell the county away.. Brain washed people ( look at the electoral map to see what people ) to feel as if we don't go in the whole trying to support other countries who are allies of the bigger countries buying out our country we are just greedy Americans.. We need to be greedy..
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:02 am to
quote:

The question now is, are the American people willing to pay more for an item produced here in the states in knowing that it helps our overall economy or do they just want the cheaper stuff from overseas while keeping their fingers crossed that eventually it doesn't wreck our economy in the long run?




The answer is the same as it has always been....Trump supporters like the idea of a 35% tariff but they ain't going to like the idea of what it is going to do to prices....they want protectionism and cheap prices....and if there is a way to provide that someone will have solved alchemy....in the interim Americans are going to buy cheap shite and to hell with consequences....
Posted by Kafkas father
Member since Aug 2016
1124 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:10 am to
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Growing up in the Deep South I personally never saw this. We ate American raised beef, chicken and crops. Shopped at local businesses and bought American made products especially automobiles.


Started in the 70's when we had a big time energy crisis. People started looking for economy and quality. The Japanese filled the bill first with economical and trustworthy cars.
From there, other countries decided to tap into where we neglected to concentrate. Presto!
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57956 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:14 am to
Americans started leaving mom and pop stores to buy cheaper products made by foreign slave labor at big box stores. Then the mom and pop stores went out of business once we were hooked on cheaper priced products. Add the internet to the mix where we can buy almost anything online, and it's an inevitable process.
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