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When did Americans begin to swat away from America First?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:32 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:32 am
Growing up in the Deep South I personally never saw this. We ate American raised beef, chicken and crops. Shopped at local businesses and bought American made products especially automobiles.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:35 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
When we went global trading for cheaper goods.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:37 am to Homesick Tiger
It seems both political parties are to blame for this
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:38 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
2008 with the inauguration of a President with the middle name Hussein.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:41 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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It seems both political parties are to blame for this
Well sure they are - at the request of the American consumer.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:42 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
I'd say the 90s. Having a POTUS that put China ahead of us was the real start. During Clinton's administration, the Chinese once remarked the WH was like dropping coins for service. We got them into the WTO and received really nothing from it.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:43 am to Kino74
When greed took over our culture
You can't bitch that your factories close down while you're buying the cheap shite from China at Walmart
You can't bitch that your factories close down while you're buying the cheap shite from China at Walmart
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:44 am to Covingtontiger77
Hussein was a wolf in sheep clothing. Many of us saw it, but the majority didn't. Human nature seems to prefer doubling down on stupid rather than to admit their own error. So they all wanted their boy to succeed, even though it's been common knowledge that he hates America.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:47 am to Kino74
The question now is, are the American people willing to pay more for an item produced here in the states in knowing that it helps our overall economy or do they just want the cheaper stuff from overseas while keeping their fingers crossed that eventually it doesn't wreck our economy in the long run?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:49 am to Homesick Tiger
I think we will it it means more jobs opening in the US for American workers.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:49 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
When the Internet starting fawning over everything the le glorious Sweden and Europe did and insisting we emulate them.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:51 am to silverstreak02
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You can't bitch that your factories close down while you're buying the cheap shite from China at Walmart
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:52 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
There is a fine juggle that needs to be played when it comes to intl trade. Yes, we want our goods. The cheaper we can get them the better. But if it involves shipping US jobs overseas I think it is a net loss. We lose the economic driver of having those citizens making money, spending money, and paying taxes.
However, for goods we import that were never based here in the US or created here then I have no problem with the free trade of those items.
However, for goods we import that were never based here in the US or created here then I have no problem with the free trade of those items.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:54 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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I think we will it it means more jobs opening in the US for American workers.
That's my hope. I'd be willing to pay more for a pair of shoes, tvs, etc. made here in knowing that the person making those items are paying income taxes to help support this country. We will not be able to survive economically when we become a bigger country of takers and not makers.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:58 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Workers of the World unite!
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:58 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Growing up in the Deep South I personally never saw this. We ate American raised beef, chicken and crops. Shopped at local businesses and bought American made products especially automobiles.
I don't know how old you are but as soon as Germany started exporting VW beetles we started buying them like there was no tomorrow....in the mid 70's we started buying Japanese cars and said things like "unions are obsolete" and "I have no obligation to buying things made by over paid Americans"...and technology made it possible to take us at our word.
There was also the element of folks who had shat their own beds in the industrial NE and Mid west by making outrageous demands and then invading the south when their employers moved from the rust belt to the sunbelt to avoid those demands and the same people who made them in Illinois never said a mumbling word when they relocated to Birmingham and Atlanta at less pay....and then technology allowed their jobs in the south to go to even lower paid people all over the world.
Outside of Union members I have never known anyone who was "America First"...and I have never known many union members who were that way really...they may drive a Ford to work to avoid having the doors of their wife's toyota welded shut but their wife is still driving a Toyota.
Trump will never impose the tarifs he ran on but the cat is out of the bag....working people have risen up and will demand their pound of flesh and the next politician looking to get elected will provide that pound of flesh to us....what we are witnessing here and around the globe is the venting of frustration of working people who are sick and tired of being stressed and broke and having no future. Conservatism, austerity and free markets are as dead as the democratic party....and good riddance to bad rubbish....it is a brave new world and Keynes was right!!!
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:01 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
After the government decided to plant the narrative to sell the county away.. Brain washed people ( look at the electoral map to see what people ) to feel as if we don't go in the whole trying to support other countries who are allies of the bigger countries buying out our country we are just greedy Americans.. We need to be greedy..
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:02 am to Homesick Tiger
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The question now is, are the American people willing to pay more for an item produced here in the states in knowing that it helps our overall economy or do they just want the cheaper stuff from overseas while keeping their fingers crossed that eventually it doesn't wreck our economy in the long run?
The answer is the same as it has always been....Trump supporters like the idea of a 35% tariff but they ain't going to like the idea of what it is going to do to prices....they want protectionism and cheap prices....and if there is a way to provide that someone will have solved alchemy....in the interim Americans are going to buy cheap shite and to hell with consequences....
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:10 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Growing up in the Deep South I personally never saw this. We ate American raised beef, chicken and crops. Shopped at local businesses and bought American made products especially automobiles.
Started in the 70's when we had a big time energy crisis. People started looking for economy and quality. The Japanese filled the bill first with economical and trustworthy cars.
From there, other countries decided to tap into where we neglected to concentrate. Presto!
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:14 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Americans started leaving mom and pop stores to buy cheaper products made by foreign slave labor at big box stores. Then the mom and pop stores went out of business once we were hooked on cheaper priced products. Add the internet to the mix where we can buy almost anything online, and it's an inevitable process.
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