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re: What would stop me from voting as someone I am not?

Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:44 pm to
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What about voting as someone that is alive and on the voting roll? What mechanisms in place would prevent me, a registered voter, from:
1. Signing in as myself
2. Pick a name that is on the same page, but does not have a signature by it
3. Tell that name to a partner in the scam
4. Partner uses that name to vote

That would be pretty risky. That other person may very well have voted by mail in.

As it is, voting for anyone else is risky as often some of the poll workers are from the same neighborhoods and could recognize a fraud. Plus each campaign usually has challengers sitting there.


No matter how you cut it, trying to impersonate a voter at the polling place is a big risk and all you are possibly gaining is a single vote. You would be better served spending that energy on driving supporters to the polls. Voter fraud nowadays is done by mail in ballots or manipulating the results at the clerk's office or through the voter machines directly.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

What about voting as someone that is alive and on the voting roll? What mechanisms in place would prevent me, a registered voter, from:
1. Signing in as myself
2. Pick a name that is on the same page, but does not have a signature by it
3. Tell that name to a partner in the scam
4. Partner uses that name to vote


Why don't you just break into the registrar of voters offices, copy all of the voter rolls, get an army of friends together, camp out the night before voting so you're group is the first to vote, then vote first and all run away so that when the real voters come to vote you'll be long gone. Now how are they gonna stop that?????

Are hey, let's require showing ID before voting gut you can do the same by just creating a bunch of fake IDs!
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6623 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:37 pm to

Vital records could notify the registrar about deaths, but what about people who move to another state or another precinct?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:42 pm to
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What would stop me from, for example, looking at the obituaries from today's newspaper, finding a person who just died in my precint named Orville Sherwoodson, and then going to a polling station and signing off on Orville Sherwoodson's name and voting?


In Louisiana you just need to sign an affidavit.
Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:42 pm to
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finding a person who just died in my precint named Orville Sherwoodson, and then going to a polling station and signing off on Orville Sherwoodson's name and voting?

Yeah, man... that's going to swing a lot of votes.

You should be MUCH more concerned about electronic voting machines wherein the potential for election theft is astronomically greater.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:46 pm to
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You should be MUCH more concerned about electronic voting machines wherein the potential for election theft is astronomically greater.


This is typical rightie behavior. The chances of dying because some working joe without sick leave coughed his flu or whatever onto the lunch he's making for you is higher than dying of Ebola - but sick leave for all would be unconstitutional.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64325 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:47 pm to



And rex your right electronic voting machines are much more dangerous to me as well. Perhaps I'm not trusting enough.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 3:50 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:48 pm to
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This is typical rightie behavior. The chances of dying because some working joe without sick leave coughed his flu or whatever onto the lunch he's making for you is higher than dying of Ebola - but sick leave for all would be unconstitutional.


Yeah, and the gun-grabbers using the "if it saves one life" mantra don't do that either
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:49 pm to
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This is typical rightie behavior. The chances of dying because some working joe without sick leave coughed his flu or whatever onto the lunch he's making for you is higher than dying of Ebola - but sick leave for all would be unconstitutional.




What in the blue hell does this have to do with the price of deep fried snickers at death valley?
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:51 pm to
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I've seen people vote with nothing more than a utility bill.


I'm perfectly fine with that. I doubt the Dems are industrious enough to collect utility bills to provide precinct officials documentation. The problem is the precinct officials.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22729 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:01 pm to
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Voting roll purges...or a mechanism whereby when a death certificate is filed it is also filed with the registrar of voters who will purge the name from the rolls. I'm more shocked that in this day and age the system isn't more integrated and efficient


Yup. I don't see why this couldn't be set up. They sure are quick to cut off Social Security checks when someone dies.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13080 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:38 pm to
My dad passed away at age 90 in January of 2008. My mom said that, when she went to vote later that year, his name was NOT on the rolls. Someone NOT in my family notoiffied the EBRP Registrar's office that my dad died.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:43 pm to
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What in the blue hell does this have to do with the price of deep fried snickers at death valley?



i can remember when stamps were only 22 cents
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:38 pm to
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Vital records could notify the registrar about deaths, but what about people who move to another state or another precinct?


How would someone know that in order to commit the fraud?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69906 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:38 pm to
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i can remember when stamps were only 22 cents




I can't. I do remember my stepfather bitching about $.95/gallon gas though.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:03 pm to
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Vital records could notify the registrar about deaths, but what about people who move to another state or another precinct?
You couldn't track them all, but when non-relatives move into the same address it should trigger a check or quicker purge. Title changes are tracked automatically and rental units are usually registered with a municipality, so that could be tracked in some ways as well.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:04 pm to
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I can't. I do remember my stepfather bitching about $.95/gallon gas though.
I remember when you could order $5 worth of gas and it wasn't for a lawnmower.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64325 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:35 pm to
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i can remember when stamps were only 22 cents


Its all clear to me now.
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