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re: What will be different about Trump this time around?
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:23 am to jnethe1
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:23 am to jnethe1
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How are they similar?
Out of control spending never stopped during Trump. I voted for him twice but his fiscal policies did not reduce government spending. He should have coupled his pro-business policies and his regulation red tape cuts with slashing government waste/expenditures.
I think our country's debt increased $4-6 trillion in his term.
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:23 am to MintBerry Crunch
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why will his incompetent governing style be any different
Is that what you think the issue was?
I was VERY please with Trump before COVID.
I think we are in an emergency situation now. We need someone who wants to take down a large part of the system. Him being a lame duck is a huge advantage to that effort.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:26 am to moneyg
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I was VERY please with Trump before COVID.
Same, however EO'ing everything and not having it codified through Congress is why we have the shitshow that is going on now. In the first day, Biden undid most of what Trump did in his 4 years.
This is another reason Trump isn't my first pic. Another 4 years of Trump would be great, but the next 4 years of Gavin Newsome or whatever POS the democrats follow Trump with will put us right back in our misery, just amplified another level.
Make America Marxist Proof (MAMP)
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 10:27 am
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:28 am to MintBerry Crunch
Uh, his first time around was better than anyone since Reagan.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:28 am to BugAC
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Same, however EO'ing everything and not having it codified through Congress is why we have the shitshow that is going on now. In the first day, Biden undid most of what Trump did in his 4 years.
Trump's economy was the best in my lifetime. Period.
You will not win votes trying to tie in covid.
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Another 4 years of Trump would be great, but the next 4 years of Gavin Newsome or whatever POS the democrats follow Trump with will put us right back in our misery, just amplified another level.
Not if the GOPE stops fighting the agenda. The house will pick up seats and the senate will.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:37 am to MintBerry Crunch
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but why will his incompetent governing style be any different this time around?
Lol, yeah we’ve got a real competent government going on right now with Biden.
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Dude got slapped down time and again by federal judges because he wasn’t an experienced government executive.
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is hardly a legitimately objective and unbiased court.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:40 am to Jjdoc
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Trump's economy was the best in my lifetime. Period.
Cool, and it lasted how long?
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You will not win votes trying to tie in covid.
I'd say the same for you with your attacks on DeSantis.
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Not if the GOPE stops fighting the agenda
How is Trump going to make them do that?
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:42 am to CoachDon
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If the establishment and the like would leave him alone to run shite, the fricking dude does good shite. Literally leave him the duck alone to focus On the country and international affairs and the motherfricker will shine like a new nickel. I really believe that.
He needs to get out of his own way sometimes, too.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:50 am to BugAC
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Cool, and it lasted how long?
until he was out of office and a president was installed.
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I'd say the same for you with your attacks on DeSantis.
No no. I stated clearly that the covid game was stupid. But if you guys want to play, we can.
HEre is what I stated... and presented to you:
In order to get it(why we are not blaming reactions), one has to come to terms with a virus called COVID-19. That it did in fact kill people. That we can all look back and to trace where it came from and hold the people responsible for that release and development. (because no covid means no reactions)
Once you get past that point, and you are a Gov of a state or the president of the USA.... You are responsible for the safety of the citizens. (because there was covid...)
At that point choices had to be made. We should be pissed. Pissed at the ones that actually did it. (and to be clear here... we are talking about the ones who released and developed it. The ones that covered it up. ) (playing the lock down blame game and reactions is pointless)
Playing this covid-19 blame game is misplaced.
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How is Trump going to make them do that?
Nobody is going to make them do anything. But I'm not going to blame Trump for their actions.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:59 am to Jjdoc
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until he was out of office and a president was installed.
Exactly. Nothing he enacted was codified. Damn near everything was EO. Which was great at the time, but was not sustaining.
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In order to get it(why we are not blaming reactions), one has to come to terms with a virus called COVID-19. That it did in fact kill people. That we can all look back and to trace where it came from and hold the people responsible for that release and development. (because no covid means no reactions)
Once you get past that point, and you are a Gov of a state or the president of the USA.... You are responsible for the safety of the citizens. (because there was covid...)
At that point choices had to be made. We should be pissed. Pissed at the ones that actually did it. (and to be clear here... we are talking about the ones who released and developed it. The ones that covered it up. ) (playing the lock down blame game and reactions is pointless)
Playing this covid-19 blame game is misplaced.
I did not see this post and agree. I have been saying for a long time that the morons attacking DeSantis for Covid have no excuse considering Trumps record with Covid either. Both of their actions can be reasonably explained at the time.
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Nobody is going to make them do anything. But I'm not going to blame Trump for their actions.
But you are going to blame DeSantis for the actions for some people that want him over Trump, but not the other way around?
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:00 am to Flats
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Yes, I watched them do it for four years and he never got any better at fighting them.
“Them” includes the GOPe.
When “your side” is sandbagging you, then you are on your own.
Trump deserves some criticism, however, losing to the Dems, Dem 2.0’s (aka GOPe), the MSM, Big Tech, DOJ, and intel agencies, is not the gotcha choice hat you think that it is.
What you should be asking is, what kind of candidate is willing to be controlled by those groups?
That is who you DON’T vote for imho.
I believe that Trump is going to go scorched Earth. I don’t get that feeling about ANY other candidate.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:21 am to BugAC
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Exactly. Nothing he enacted was codified. Damn near everything was EO. Which was great at the time, but was not sustaining.
Then I suggest we put people in congress that will do what they are sent to do.
I suggest we have a COS and make it mandatory they balance the budget. But get ready for tax increases every time the dems get control.
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Nobody is going to make them do anything. But I'm not going to blame Trump for their actions.
That was about people elected to congress to do a job and then they vote the opposite way. McCain.
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But you are going to blame DeSantis for the actions for some people that want him over Trump, but not the other way around?
This makes no sense in terms of my response. I don;t blame anybody for supporting Desantis. It's their vote.
I will state what I see and that's it. That will cause some Ron supporters to go over the top like last night. Threats of doxing, violence... pushing MAGA voters out of society and leaving them destitute...
etc.
My opinions are my own. I don;t need Trump, DeSantis nor Fox (or any news) to tell me how to think.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:24 am to MintBerry Crunch
run back to the OT jagoff and post your dumb arse drivel there.
you have been destroyed here like turdzana and his bitch TGFN
you have been destroyed here like turdzana and his bitch TGFN
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:34 am to MintBerry Crunch
Nothing hopefully
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:07 pm to jimmy the leg
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I believe that Trump is going to go scorched Earth.
I believe he's going to talk about going scorched Earth, then have 4 years that would look pretty much like his first 4. Some good things, some bad things, and the good things get overturned by the next president because they're not legislative action.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 8:41 pm to Flats
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I believe he's going to talk about going scorched Earth, then have 4 years that would look pretty much like his first 4.
His personal history does not support your take.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:08 pm to jimmy the leg
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His personal history does not support your take.
His four years as president supports my take.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:16 pm to MintBerry Crunch
Starts his term as a lame duck. Dems take back the house, and keep the senate. He writes a bunch of executive orders, while playing golf and hosting Xi and Putin at Maralago. You know, draining the swamp.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:34 pm to Flats
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His four years as president supports my take.
Your definition of “Scorched Earth” and mine must be different.
I would suggest that the opportunity to “get even” would be a major factor.
You do you though.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:38 pm to jimmy the leg
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I would suggest that the opportunity to “get even” would be a major factor.
So two BS impeachments, all the "literal Nazi" and "he never denounced white supremacy" shite wasn't enough to make him want to "get even" in 2020?
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 9:40 pm
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