re: What is your advice to this manufacturing worker?

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Slightly off topic, but have you by chance been to Hobbs or Carlsbad, New Mexico? If so, what's your take (in regards to the energy industry)?

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Not yet, we are going to try to hit Carlsbad next year. We want to see the caverns, the Sonora caverns are pretty cool. Do they have energy production there? Our company has a solar plant near Hatch.

Oh and I did forget to mention I was on unemployment for most of the time I was in school, it was hard to make ends meet but my wife and I managed.

I have been involved with the semi conductor industry for over 20 years, salaries ten plus years ago were in the mid twenties for our production workers, now it is in the mid teens and dropping. Robots are increasingly taking the production jobs, and lowering the human wages.

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Go to work at McDonalds, in a few years he will reach manager and make a lot more than he ever did.

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You start up mopping the floor. Then you move up to washing lettuce. In a couple of years you'll be assistant manager and that's when the big bucks start rolling in.

Great movie and a great line.

Funny, cause I guarantee you he has done exactly all of that.

Which has him where he is.

Making a big assumption based on the union shirt he proudly wears....but he probably falls in the mold believing that his seniority is a quality all of its own.


One crew at my workplace is full of senior frickups who have been in their jobs piddling along for 7+ years.


Attention has been garnered because it no longer can be swept under the rug that their quality of work is the norm because another crew is doing all their crap, in less time, and still have side time to conduct multiple value adding projects. It all came to a head for management when circumstance resulted in 5 of them going down in a day.


They brought two from my crew.

We completed nearly twice as much work as they typically do.

In the sit down meeting, one of them said, and I shite you not: "You can't tell us that these people who have been here less than a year are doing a better job than us. It insults our intelligence."

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if he's failed to save properly and make adjustments to the market to make his labor more valuable? yes

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Why do people think that the poor can save any meaningful amount of money?

At best they can build up a small safety net in case shite goes bad (which inevitably something will always happen)

Then that safety net gets all but depleted and they are back to square one

Telling poor people to save is like telling short people to dunk a basketball