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What if we lifted sanctions and opened trade with NK?

Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:47 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90711 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:47 pm
Let's be honest, going to war will cost hundreds of thousands of lives. More sanctions obviously aren't deterring Kim, and only serve to worsen conditions and poverty for the Korean people.

Would it be worth a shot to say ok we recognize you have nukes, and make a deal to try to bring them into the 21st century? Lift sanctions and open trade in exchange for NK suspending any further advances in nuclear technology but accepting what they already accomplished. Along with demanding he improve his human rights abuses. Convince him if he does this his improved economy and nations wealth would make him a hero among his people as their standard of living would improve and famines would end.

Seems like it's worth a try. If you can be friendly and establish economic relations the likelihood of Kim launching a surprise attack would diminish. But he may not even be open to any of that...which in that case war is inevitable at some point.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28018 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:57 pm to
You mean,reward him for throwing nuclear tantrums?

I can't see how this would lead to anything bad.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56562 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Lift sanctions and open trade in exchange for NK suspending any further advances in nuclear technology


Or else what?

Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48956 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:01 pm to
Dude do you know anything about NK?

Jesus you must be ignorant as F, what are they gonna trade
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6045 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:02 pm to
We need to figure out a way to get China to stop supplying them with ICBM supplies..
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
16842 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:02 pm to
you really know nothing about NK, do you?
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

What if we lifted sanctions and opened trade with NK?




Let's just hold them by the hands and sing!

Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3040 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Let's be honest, going to war will cost hundreds of thousands of NORTH KOREAN lives.


FIFY
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:09 pm to
Good post. Makes you think, I bet there will lots of downvotes.

The problem would be he has to keep the populace barefoot and pregnant, so even if you offered free shite they really needed (like farm raised catfish fillets) you could never get it in.
Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
3857 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:57 pm to
Trade implies that both sides have something of value to exchange. NK can't feed their own people. There is no trade incentive for anyone dealing wit NK due to their non-existent economy.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80274 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:01 pm to
NK wouldn't go for that. Trade leads to interaction and exchange of ideas and that's dangerous to the regime. They also need to keep the USA as the boogeyman to perpetually rally the peasants around the flag.
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:02 pm to
Sign a non-aggression pact and pull out American troops from South Korea. Let the Chinese, South Koreans, and the Japanese deal with NK.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19711 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:08 pm to
Why if we just walk 100 hydrogen bombs across the shite hole and call it a day instead?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19064 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:10 pm to
Don't they actually need something to trade first?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41153 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 5:44 am to
Totally agree.


I'm not sure why so many people think that more of the same will change anything. Another 50 years of isolation and sanctions will do nothing but reinforce the regime. No totalitarian state can survive free trade.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:13 am to
quote:

What if we lifted sanctions and opened trade with NK?

Yeah what could go wrong with this

How about we just blow them frickers off the map and be done with it? Problem solved
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7194 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:40 am to
quote:

What if we lifted sanctions and opened trade with NK?


What if you paid attention to current events when Clinton was president.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7194 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:41 am to
quote:

I'm not sure why so many people think that more of the same will change anything. Another 50 years of isolation and sanctions will do nothing but reinforce the regime. No totalitarian state can survive free trade.



Except that's not true.^
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13499 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:26 am to
"Relax, we're only going to rape you a couple of dozen times. It's no big deal, and you'll be fine after."
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:35 am to
Did you work in either the Carter or Clinton administrations?
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