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What exactly was the "No Child Left Behind" Act?

Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1636 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:39 pm
I remember this being a cornerstone of "Dubya's" policy during his first term. It was never something I felt passionate about.

WTF was it, though? It sounds stupid. People have varying intellectual abilities, and at some point we're all kind of "left behind." I took 10 semester hours of college calculus, for example, but I just didn't have to take differential equations so I didn't take it.

Sometimes I sit around and wonder what they did in those math classes I never took. However, I do not think that this is really a legitimate topic for Congress to write laws about. I made my decision, and every day I have to live with it.

What am I missing here?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32534 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:33 am to
It’s when we started teaching to the dumbest kid in the room instead of the smartest.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6404 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:29 am to
It was written by Ted Kennedy (D), and passed by Bush. Sure seems to have worked, considering how many Chicago schools alone don't have a single student proficient in math at grade level.

This is a decently evenhanded review, but notice how many waivers were passed.

Teachers (unions, at least) hated it because it involved measuring teacher performance (which was later watered down to be meaningless.)

I think was Reagan that mentioned that the Department of Education had never taught a single student, so why did it even exist with so much funding?

You're not missing much. They do write lengthy academic papers about what worked and what didn't, which nobody will read, but FedGov probably funded those after actions too.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15540 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:17 am to
It was designed to try to ensure accountability for student performance. Dismal failure in my opinion. I have been teaching for 3 decades. Teachers and school administrators put a lot of pressure on kids to do well on the tests which yielded little more than test anxiety on the part of the students. There were also numerous cases of cheating on the part of teachers and school administrators.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35070 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:24 am to
If 1 person gets across they border we have to let them bring their entire extended family.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59785 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:27 am to
A blatant rejection of the reality that not everyone gets to be an astronaut.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2374 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:29 am to
Instead of trying to speed up the dummies, they slow down the smarties
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27102 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:31 am to
A big part of the problem we see with the decline in the quality of public education...

"Equity" at its best... However, you cannot put a borderline SPED kid in the same class with an honors kid and expect them to learn together... One is going to suffer, in this case, the honors kid is just not challenged...
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8077 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:04 am to
To me, it laid the groundwork for what we’re seeing in places like Maryland and Oregon, where no one can read at grade level, where they get rid of being able to read and write to graduate.

It planted the seeds of “equity” that we’re seeing now. Those first group of kids are now teachers, indoctrinated with this CRT/Woke ideology. It’s all they have known. These are the participation trophy kids, too. They don’t know competition.

Like so many here have said, we stunted the academic growth of the smartest to teach to the level of the least capable.

Now, we’re seeing the fruits of that failed initiative.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37064 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:09 am to
Our schools and students are falling behind other countries. There was a thought that the only way to fix that was with a national standard and federal money.

Not a bad idea.

But like everything else, the feds somehow made the situation worse.

Mainly by not actually fixing anything, but instead requiring a bunch of reports. The money went to pay the report writers.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5312 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:28 am to
Kids need to learn the consequences of performance and failure at a young age. Without being allowed to fail, we are handicapping them for the long haul.

And as someone else mentioned, classrooms are now catered to the lowest common denominator rather than the average or smartest. The smartest waste their potential while the average is lowered perpetually.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6559 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:30 am to
“Remember we were giving kids a Head Start, head start, left behind…someone’s losing fricking ground”

-George Carlin

Also

“Before long the only thing you’ll need to get into college is a fricking pencil..this is physics, you got a pencil? Get the frick in there”
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 7:31 am
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
1616 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:32 am to
It’s a bunch of bullshite , same as war on drugs, war on poverty , etc.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59785 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:36 am to
quote:

To me, it laid the groundwork for what we’re seeing in places like Maryland and Oregon, where no one can read at grade level, where they get rid of being able to read and write to graduate.

Now they've made the Military so distasteful thanks to their deliberate woke nonsense, that recruitment is in the sewer to the point that they've begun waiving HS diplomas.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27102 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:38 am to
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Mainly by not actually fixing anything


The country would have been better off if there had been two tracks created and students split at the 6th grade...

Career Track
Professional Track

Of course, many would have been up in arms...
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 7:45 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50403 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:42 am to
quote:

What exactly was the "No Child Left Behind" Act?


Another failed attempt by the federal government to improve literally anything.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13950 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:44 am to
Kids are just labeled unsatisfactory or approaching basic and moved on to the next grade. Then those teachers are suppose to grow them magically. If it’s an effort issue some kids can grow out of it. If it’s a mental capacity it is what it is.
Posted by PapaZulu
Davidson, NC
Member since May 2014
367 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 8:04 am to
Should have been labled the "Every Child Kept Behind" Act. In my opinion it held exceptionalism back.

The standards have been continually lowered since the inception of the Dept of Education and the kids still cant keep up.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34891 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 8:04 am to
Another touchy-feely Title for a massive expenditure 'Program' which ends up in the pockets of grifting politicos and Marxist activists that are running the Bureaucracy (Deep State) from top to bottom.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6404 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:46 pm to
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However, you cannot put a borderline SPED kid in the same class with an honors kid and expect them to learn together


Preach. In 5th grade last year, in an an extremely affluent elementary district, my kid had four or five kids with earmuffs in a class of about 22. They couldn't sit through 60 seconds of the end of year class presentation without beating themselves in the head, and having two TA's to keep them under sort of control.

Unpopular opinion, it's not public education. Department of Defense schools in the 80s were funded at about 30-40% of the average US school. Yet, because they parents, even e-dogs, were involved, they excelled, regardless of race. Show up on time. Do your homework. Respect your teachers (zing!)

Many, many, moms have wrecked their kids, and that's the cause. I don't want to get racial, but the Nigerians, Indians, and Chinese don't have these problems, but kids that aren't a part of that group suck more. Some more than others.
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