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What crime did Trump cover up in the NYC hush money bookkeeping trial?

Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:07 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119066 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:07 am
I'm still trying to figure that one out. IDK if even the Trump defense team knows yet.

Any ideas?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21987 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:10 am to
Campaign finance violations, and unduly influencing the outcome of an election.

It's right there in the charging document, the only person hiding it from you is you.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119066 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Campaign finance violations, and unduly influencing the outcome of an election.

It's right there in the charging document, the only person hiding it from you is you.


Can you link it?
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5263 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:13 am to
quote:

I'm still trying to figure that one out. IDK if even the Trump defense team knows yet.

I'm not sure the defense team knows either. They mentioned something in court yesterday that led me to believe they are relying solely on what the judges jury instructions are and I don't think he has made it official yet.

Imagine being a defense lawyer, they just wrapped up the prosecutions case and now it's your turn to put on a defense for your client......and you don't even know what the alleged crime is yet.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
430 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:14 am to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21987 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Can you link it?


LINK
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4816 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:19 am to
quote:

LINK


NY Times

You stupid fukkin douchebag.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19140 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:21 am to
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unduly influencing the outcome of an election.


Not disclosing the fact you got some pussy influenced the outcome of an election??

The man is literally on tape talking about women letting him grab them by the pussy and he still won.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7924 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Campaign finance violations, and unduly influencing the outcome of an election.


He’s never been charged with this stuff. And wasn’t the business record in question created in 2017?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119066 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:23 am to
Thanks.

I see 34 counts of falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

quote:

The defendant, in the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017, with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime


Again, the question in the OP was what crime is Trump being accused of covering up by falsifying bookkeeping records?
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5263 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Campaign finance violations, and unduly influencing the outcome of an election.

It's right there in the charging document, the only person hiding it from you is you.

Campaign finance violations would be out of their jurisdiction and no such statute exists in NY for "unduly influencing the out come of an election".

Notice in that charging document that there in no reference to a statute of law regarding the supposed underlying crime? That's why people are saying there is no clear understanding regarding the charges. Bragg has stated publically that he doesn't have to provide one. That is in direct violation of the state constitution.

Highlight the statute or provision of law in that indictment that they are alleging is the basis for the underlying crime? I won't hold my breath.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21471 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:24 am to
quote:

IDK if even the Trump defense team knows yet.


Wouldn't surprise me given the level of representation he's been reduced to.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2651 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:25 am to
That he is OMB.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261964 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:26 am to
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and unduly influencing the outcome of an election.


lololol...

I cant imagine a progressive saying that with a straight face.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7924 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Wouldn't surprise me given the level of representation he's been reduced to.


Well I don’t know, that cross was pretty damn effective.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119066 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Can you link it?


LINK


Quote the NYTs opinion of the crime Trump was covering up through falsifying bookkeeping legers because I do not have subscription.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18768 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:28 am to
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unduly influencing the outcome of an election.


The first candidate in the history of the country to be charged with this BS while running for office.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
378 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Campaign finance violations, and unduly influencing the outcome of an election.

It's right there in the charging document, the only person hiding it from you is you.


Give us the statutes, genius.

Here's a hint, you can't. And that, for morons , is the question that all.of the better lawyers on earth, are wondering
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16025 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:30 am to
Did Trump put chewing gum under a desk in 1965?

We need to know!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119066 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:30 am to
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unduly influencing


What does "unduly influencing" even mean?

Sounds like a made up MSNBC verb-adverb combination.
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