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What are the pollsters doing differently in 2020 that they didn't do in 2016?
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:02 pm
I have yet to see a definitive answer as how they got it so wrong in 2016.
If they can't identify where they went wrong, how have they supposedly adjusted?
I admit these "polls" sometimes makes me feel nervous. But the enthusiasm gap is unlike anything I've ever seen.
No way can Biden beat Trump in a national election.
If they can't identify where they went wrong, how have they supposedly adjusted?
I admit these "polls" sometimes makes me feel nervous. But the enthusiasm gap is unlike anything I've ever seen.
No way can Biden beat Trump in a national election.
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:04 pm to Rebel
people are either ignoring their calls or outright lying to pollsters, they really don't know if they're getting an accurate sample...
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:04 pm to Rebel
Trying twice as hard to get a Democrat elected.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:04 pm to vl100butch
They will tell you they didnt have the models adjusted by education level.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:06 pm to Rebel
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What are the pollsters doing differently in 2020 that they didn't do in 2016?
Nothing. They believe 2016 was an anomaly and because they believe themselves beyond reproach and never to be wrong, they are going to be wrong, again.
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No way can Biden beat Trump in a national election.
He can by cheating. I don’t put it past them.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:07 pm to Rebel
Which polls and what level? State or national? National polls were basically correct in 2016 since Hillary won the popular vote. State polls, which are often less reliable, did not get it right in several notable places. National polls are worthless unless people want to predict the popular vote outcome.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:07 pm to Rebel
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I admit these "polls" sometimes makes me feel nervous.
I admit I'm not resting easy these days.
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But the enthusiasm gap is unlike anything I've ever seen.
I agree.
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What are the pollsters doing differently in 2020 that they didn't do in 2016?
Again, good question. Surely after ending up with egg in their faces, w0uldn't they be anxious to be correct this time? Or is polling and inexact science?
I can totally believe it that people won't tell pollsters the truth if they're voting Trump. The left has become dangerous and deranged. If it were a dog you'd have to give it rabies treatment. IF that's even possible.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:10 pm to Pigimus Prime
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Which polls and what level?
polls like this.
Don't act like the pollsters were accurate in 2016.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:22 pm to Rebel
Their job is NOT to get things right.
They are hired by clients like CNN to make up some mumbo-jumbo scientific formula that spits out a result the client wants.
The client doesn't give a shite about accuracy.
The firm that CNN hired in 2016 was way too accurate before the election compared to the other polls so..... for their efforts, they got fired.
They are hired by clients like CNN to make up some mumbo-jumbo scientific formula that spits out a result the client wants.
The client doesn't give a shite about accuracy.
The firm that CNN hired in 2016 was way too accurate before the election compared to the other polls so..... for their efforts, they got fired.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:49 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Nothing. They believe 2016 was an anomaly and because they believe themselves beyond reproach and never to be wrong, they are going to be wrong, again.
People running investment scams will target people that believe they are the smartest person in the room, that type person believes they can’t be conned because they are smart enough to recognize a con, often these people will get taken more than once by the same scam, these pollsters think the same way.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:03 pm to Rebel
That wasn’t a poll, it was a predictive model. I’m not acting like anything. I’m asking you specifically which polls you are referring to. Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%. The RCP Average was 3.2%, so the polls were within the MOE of the result of the vote they were predicting. Predicting the actual Electoral College winner involves a much more complicated approach than an average of national polls.
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:12 pm to Rebel
Well, they have been reassured by the Democrat election fraud syndicate that this year they have a much better ground game.
Even the head of the Democrats, Biden, said it on video.
Even the head of the Democrats, Biden, said it on video.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:14 pm to vl100butch
Or they are just making up shite.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:26 pm to grimmrimmer
One thing is doing more quality state polls which lacked in a lot of battleground states in 2016.
Another is that college educated people are more likely to be polled and are also more likely to be Democrat. They used to not weigh polls based on this because it wasn't as correlated until 2016 so now polls are more weighted for education.
Another is that college educated people are more likely to be polled and are also more likely to be Democrat. They used to not weigh polls based on this because it wasn't as correlated until 2016 so now polls are more weighted for education.
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